Split catagory because of diversity

[XIII]

We are not here to practice magic as a belief system. If you want to spout about beliefs, you can take it to the spirituality board. Magic is about impartial truths; things that can be proven through experimentation.

[Steve]

For the record, I was joking Queen of the South. I understand what you meant, and was offering another, what I thought was "humourous", viewpoint.

But I stand by my real point; there aren't enough posts in the magic forum to warrant it. Though, to see if the general population of veritas agrees or not, start an official poll asking for a change. If the majority agree with you, then there will likely be a subforum created. Otherwise, no harm done.

~Steve

[queen of the south]

Okay,Raitaro,I acknowledge your point.However,there are some concepts which can not be measured,since the"Tools"aren't there to give us an accurate measurement and can not be defined and put into a box.My point is that not all can be measured.People have been trying to define god since the dawn of time-who is  one mortal to tell another that their PERCEPTION of god is right or wrong.In my practice the taking up of any belief system whether generally accepted  or not,is crucial-in other words the ability to use a belief for a purpose and then drop it.               Steve,thanks for the advice,might    try it                                                 

[Big Boss]

When the Body Energy Arts forum was overrun with Martial Arts topics, we made a Martial Arts subforum. When the Other forum was overrun with Projection and Dream topics, we made subforums.

Right now, there is no particular flood of topics about any particular system or category. There are Protection topics, Tarot Topics, a whole load of spam, and in general, a healthy melange of variety. When action is needed, it will be done. Segregation without such need is unnecessary and alienates people.

[queen of the south]

Alienation also occurs when a group refuses to acknowledge that others have a right to have opposing views from the mainstream.

[Big Boss]

Mind giving an example of such alienation? I've seen none of it. As it stands, everyone on Veritas has an equal opportunity to post and reply to any given topic and to create their own topics.

[queen of the south]

And you can make a suggestion without being judged?

[Raitaro]

If that suggestion makes any logical sense then yes.

[queen of the south]

It might make sense to me and not to you,so forget I spoke,since it doesn't make sense to anyone except me.Why do you even bother if it makes no sense?

[Raitaro]

Because then less intelligent fluffy people may believe it, take it to heart, ruin the credibility and tidiness of our forums (no names people) and that would suck. Furthermore, it's my goal to have a community where we have genuine practioners. Something "making sense to me but not to you" is an odd concept. I mean if it's logical rather than simply a string of nonsense.
 "Theugf ffdyhe dlrrp fhepo" is essentially the same as "Oh and kundalini=physical snake on your toes that curls around the hair follicles on your leg and up to your left nostril where it french kisses your brain snake". It makes no sense if you've not at least cited something or given an arguement to support it.

[queen of the south]

Excuse me with my small intellect and all,but if people want to believe that the fluffbunny is in fact Raitaro in disguise,then maybe on some level or dimention they might be right.It does seem that-this is meant sarcasticly-  the far superior systems- should indeed have their own subcatagories-this won't alienate anyone,since the forum is open and you may read whatever your heart desires and still comment on it all,even if you don't have a clue-you would for instance still be able to brush off something, like for instance  chaos or the belief in the fluffbunny ,as fluff and  utter nonsense,simply go from the old paradigms to the new.I made the suggestion here -it is after all only that-because it  is the right place for it and it would give the forum   a more professional look.I believe I did mention earlier on that  Steve was right.Sometimes practices and systems get shot down as fluff  due to the lack of knowledge and/or experience of that particular person,likewise,everything that is written does not always make sense to everyone that reads it.                                                         

[Big Boss]

Excuse me with my small intellect and all,but if people want to believe that the fluffbunny is in fact Raitaro in disguise,then maybe on some level or dimention they might be right.It does seem that the far superior systems should indeed have their own subcatagories-this won't alienate anyone,since the forum is open and you may read whatever your heart desires and still comment on it all,even if you don't have a clue-you would for instance still be able to brush off something, like for instance  chaos or the belief in the fluffbunny ,as fluff and  utter nonsense,simply go from the old paradigms to the new.I made the suggestion here -it is after all only that-because it  is the right place for it and it would give the forum   a more professional look.I believe I did mention earlier on that  Steve was right.Sometimes practices and systems get shot down as fluff  due to the lack of knowledge and/or experience of that particular person,likewise,everything that is written does not always make sense to everyone that reads it.                                                         

Right there you managed to alienate me from ever supporting your cause and it's the exact reason I don't support your suggestion. Calling any system "far superior" is indignant and completely unnecessary and can only be construed as an insult to those that don't subscribe to your beliefs.

Veritas isn't meant to insult people that are different.

[Raitaro]

Anyone who can make a fluffy system sound good will be able to run rings in a debate around everyone on this forum. A fear that we'll miss worthwhile knowledge is unfounded.

[queen of the south]

Big boss,I was being sarcastic.I would never call myself or anything about me far superior,that includes my beliefs,practices and opinions.As for supporting me-was that ever your intention? Raitaro,I don't enjoy debates and that is the very reason I get involved in them-to strenthen my weakness.

[Big Boss]

If there was sarcasm there then you neglected to add in the necessary indications so that your meaning wouldn't be misconstrued.

And when it comes to supporting you, I try to keep an open mind when it comes to improvements to the site. I did not feel the need for a subforum as I've made clear, but I would gladly listen to your reasons for wanting one and if you provided a good enough argument, I'd be happy to change my stance. Once I saw your apparently "sarcastic" post, I decided there was no argument that you could give that would make me support a subforum.