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May 30, 2010, 06:04:04 PM
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In the non-public lessons, focal meditation was done for about 2 weeks before the next lesson.

Time is not a very good measurement, though.

The later lessons require you to have 'found your soul' - so you don't move on until you've done that. It could happen quickly, or it could take a while. Development is different for each person. And of course, meditation is continued afterward.

May 30, 2010, 06:14:59 PM
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July 14, 2011, 06:30:54 AM
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am too anxious to meditate on ma soul and i know i can do it but i cnt silent my thoughts

July 14, 2011, 07:21:06 AM
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@amaobi:
Few tips:
Focal meditation with candle light, focal meditation with antahkarana symbol


Zai-zen meditation (simple counting of breaths)

Fourfold meditation

japa meditation (om namah PSIvayah should do the trick).

July 14, 2011, 12:19:02 PM
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japa meditation (om namah PSIvayah should do the trick).
I lol'd. Brilliant, Awakened! :)

February 22, 2013, 07:49:16 AM
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I am new to all of this but I totaly like it. It's amazing how well you explained all what we need to know as beginners. Thanks!!

March 14, 2013, 10:54:57 AM
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from my experience and understanding of meditation it is more beneficial to do both focal and void meditation rather than doing them separate, its just a matter of slipping into one state of focus, and then naturally allowing your self to slip back to the other by doing this its still extreme concentration thats the focal and the void is when you by sheer will stilling your mind but either way it takes concentration to achieve both so to me they are one in the same...i mean speaking from my own experience. 

March 14, 2013, 11:02:03 AM
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@seanburtonsb: Void meditation is about a complete loss of perception of your body, your mind and your surroundings (no thoughts, no internal input, no external input). I do not think that it can be accomplished during focal meditation, maybe after as a next step.

March 14, 2013, 03:38:07 PM
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from my experience and understanding of meditation it is more beneficial to do both focal and void meditation rather than doing them separate, its just a matter of slipping into one state of focus, and then naturally allowing your self to slip back to the other by doing this its still extreme concentration thats the focal and the void is when you by sheer will stilling your mind but either way it takes concentration to achieve both so to me they are one in the same...i mean speaking from my own experience. 
Trying to do both at the same time is counter productive and will ultimately achieve you nothing , seeing as the goals of focal and void meditation are completely opposite. In other words, you cant clear your mind by thinking harder, and you cant focus on one thing while you are trying to clear your head of all things.
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March 14, 2013, 05:00:36 PM
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Void meditation is about a complete loss of perception of your body, your mind and your surroundings (no thoughts, no internal input, no external input). I do not think that it can be accomplished during focal meditation, maybe after as a next step. 

It can be achieve in a way through focal meditation. As the object of your attention should in some way keep your conscious mind occupied. All other external sensations and thoughts will stop. This is a deep state of trance. This is a state of single minded focus or one-point awareness.

March 15, 2013, 01:47:53 AM
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Void meditation is about a complete loss of perception of your body, your mind and your surroundings (no thoughts, no internal input, no external input). I do not think that it can be accomplished during focal meditation, maybe after as a next step. 

It can be achieve in a way through focal meditation. As the object of your attention should in some way keep your conscious mind occupied. All other external sensations and thoughts will stop. This is a deep state of trance. This is a state of single minded focus or one-point awareness.

Yup, but it still isn't void.