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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2005, 02:16:13 AM »

From my understanding, adrenaline is basically the 'choke' (as in motors) of the human body. It reduces bloodflow to non essential systems (such as skin) to maximise the flow to muscles to give them a jump start. But it seems that a downside is shakiness. So that would rule out interest in lentation for me to start with, I don't really feel like being a responsive butterfingers.
It also seems Kakkarot's link to wikipedia seems quite informative on the dangers of adrenaline, so I'll answer some other questions.

How come simple ball catching exercises make you lentate?
I mean everybody plays with balls at school now and then are they in danger? I dont think so!
I think in the lentation exercises a person is supposed to leave catching the ball until the last moment and then seeing it as a life or death situation that you must catch the ball.
But ball games at school are really just co-ordination exercises. It is just a game.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2006, 12:31:45 PM »

You know, I think there is a way to relsolve the problem of whether or not lentation is dangerous an produces enough adrinaline to hurt you by doing a simple thing, like taking a person who can do lentation at will to a doctor or a medical resercher, having them do lentation and then have a blood test done to check for adrinaline levels.  Then ask the doctor if such levels are truly dangerous.  Has this already been done?  Untill it is, I think everyone here is just shooting in the dark.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2006, 10:47:36 AM »

The next person who says I lied when talking about my car crash is in for pain in gastronomical (woohoo) proportions. I did dodge the car, yes - in the process breaking 14 bones and having a fun time learning to walk again.

Moving on. I hope the next guy asking for "OMFG I WANTG TEH LENTATRATIONZOrR!" gets this article pinned to his forhead with a 14 inch nailing bolt. I commend Kobok for writing this.

And a little heads up on my leave of absence: the council knows of this; and I trust them to not relay any of the details on to you mongrels.

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by the way, what the hell is up with that golden dawn crap? Anyone? Oh well.

Oh yeah: I like Lentation <- look Vox teh sarcastic undertone. Happy?
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2006, 10:51:06 AM »

Yeah, you've lit up my life tremendously....
I like lemons....and you don't see me shouting that around...idiot

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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2006, 08:25:51 AM »

I still haven't figuired out the answer to my question. Why as I said I have read Darkduck's article of lentation and the exercises described in his articles are mainly playing with balls. So its not that dangerous as some people tend to play games like that and don't lentate a thing.How come these produce the slow mo effect as described?
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« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2006, 04:21:15 PM »

I'm pretty sure the mods here need big ol' red stamps that say "do not allow to breed" that they can stamp onto the people here who lack the slightest amount of common sense.  I'd like one too, now that I think of it...and ClarkKent, you would get the first stamp because there are 3 pages dedicated to defining lentation and making people aware of it's dangers.
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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2006, 03:18:11 AM »

Lightbringer: I don't think you get his question. He's asking how some silly little excercises like throwing a ball into the air and catching it can possibly induce something as "dangerous" as lentation. In his mind, he's thinking it's a bit of an exaggeration to say simple little excercises like that would bring about an extreme amount of chemical change in the brain&body, so he doesn't get why everyone says lentation is dangerous because noone's told him that the excercises in the original article aren't the only way to produce lentation (minor, beginning lentation at that) and some of the other ways to "train" it can overbalance your brain's/body's chemicals and neuron-firing-thingies. (sorry, i'm almost late for work. i'm sure you get what i'm saying though)

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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2006, 08:19:19 PM »

No I get it, but to not be able to deduce that the exercises used to train lentation are obviously less tramatic than say hurling yourself in front of cars, in an attempt to lentate and dodge them, is the shortcoming I'm referring to.  So it's pretty dang obvious that you train to do lentation (as has been said in this thread as well as others) by doing less tramatic things than what normally cause your body to lentate.  Thusly something like playing with some balls is a lentation exercise and has the same adrenal effects as jumping in front of a car once one is experienced enough at lentation.
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« Reply #38 on: January 11, 2006, 09:30:26 AM »

Still to think about it is a very different situation. Don't tell me that playing with a ball and dodging a car produce the same amount of adrenaline. Its stupid! In the first one you are just enjoying yourself while in the other its a life threatining situation.
Any ways some scientists also tell you to do something scary everyday so that your heart is exercised and releives cholesterol buildup in the arteries. The bad effects of lentation might happen (depending on the fitness of the individual) if the effect and stress are taken and  kept for too long. I'm not saying that its good but in controlled amounts it is not harmful, so I don't know why you are making such a fuss on someone who asks about the article.............. angry
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« Reply #39 on: January 11, 2006, 10:18:29 AM »

For the same reason practicing the forms of T'ai Chi doesn't actually have any benift besides some exercise. Lentation enforces a whole different state of mind; one which has nothing to do with bouncing balls and cards. And no, throwing yourself in front of a car and catching a ball are very different adrenal situations. The key is to create the same adrenal 'punch' for catching a ball as you would when dodging a car.

Note: I still don't want Lentation around here, and there is NO discussion about it, whatsoever. This is treading on a very fine line, not just because Lentation is bad for you, but also because I've explicitly stated that I don't want that kinda thing around any more, and because it's already been discussed a million times before.
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« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2006, 06:17:05 AM »

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I'm pretty sure the mods here need big ol' red stamps that say "do not allow to breed" that they can stamp onto the people here who lack the slightest amount of common sense.
I WANTS ONE!!

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I would stamp half the people I know. Oh well, evolution and all...
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« Reply #41 on: January 24, 2006, 01:13:32 AM »

Well, some friends and i were into aggressive skating for 5 straight years... lentation was THAT great.

Still is now. Balancing 100+ pounds into half an inch plastic on waxed metal advancing as slow as possible triggers lentation almost every time. There was no damage besides the usual bruises. Never had a "adrenaline hangover".
Also, there wasn“t any digestive problems. On the other side, prolonged stress caused some.

Maybe the strain comes at giving the body two contradictory orders... to give it an energy boost that won“t get nowhere (cause there“s not enough physical activity), so the sustances may stay on circulation way more than usual.

Maybe the products of slow biochemical reactions (the ones that doesn“t matter in a near instant adrenaline usage) make harmful effects. Or maybe lentation is triggered by a different substance than the ones stress produce.

My five cents.

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« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2006, 04:32:43 AM »

I think what those exercises really do are teach you to react faster  to situations and they have little danger of adrenaline berserk etc grin
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« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2006, 07:25:07 AM »

I think what those exercises really do are teach you to react faster  to situations and they have little danger of adrenaline berserk etc grin
i agree with that than most other posible explanations
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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2006, 10:33:08 PM »

No matter how long and explaining article you put up here, whoever posted the lentation pdf let out the fly. I had only read it once and since I try things out I did and still do reinstall everything over short periods of time. So that article is long lost to me, I don't even remember when it came out. Even reading it once, I will never end my interest in "lentation" no matter how many more warnings you give. You let out the fly and I will find it, even if it takes a lifetime.
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