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January 26, 2005, 03:48:55 AM
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Without starting a flame session I was wondering what people thought of using the self hypnosis technique of time dialation as a safe alternative to lentation. The human mind is capable of perceptual changes in the flow of time and does so regularly.
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January 26, 2005, 04:17:04 AM
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A safe alternative to Lentation is training to simply be faster without having to use tricks.
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January 26, 2005, 05:36:38 AM
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Yeh, just work on improving your time all-around (i.e.- improving punch time, kick time, running speed, etc.).
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January 26, 2005, 11:10:38 AM
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Without starting a flame session I was wondering what people thought of using the self hypnosis technique of time dialation as a safe alternative to lentation. The human mind is capable of perceptual changes in the flow of time and does so regularly.


The simplest answer to that is that you're just looking at the question in terms of the wrong terminology for what you're trying to ask.  Try reading this article:

http://www.athleticinsight.com/Vol1Iss3/Empirical_Zone.htm
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January 26, 2005, 05:34:07 PM
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A good read, thank you Kobok only by their definition the "zone" is involuntary and not induced at will.

"Ravizza (1977, 1984) found that the nature of the sport peak experience was: temporary and of relatively short duration; non-voluntary and not induced at will; and, unique and not necessarily associated with a successful performance outcome."

I think part of the attraction of lentation is the ability to produce peak performance at will.
Oh I have no interest in lentation myself I'm mental enough without inducing scitzophrenia :O
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January 28, 2005, 08:28:25 AM
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A good read, thank you Kobok only by their definition the "zone" is involuntary and not induced at will.

"Ravizza (1977, 1984) found that the nature of the sport peak experience was: temporary and of relatively short duration; non-voluntary and not induced at will; and, unique and not necessarily associated with a successful performance outcome."

I think part of the attraction of lentation is the ability to produce peak performance at will.
Oh I have no interest in lentation myself I'm mental enough without inducing scitzophrenia :O


Actually, the zone can be induced at will, and responses within the zone can be programmed.  Doing so requires developing control over ones mental states and nonconscious mind.
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January 29, 2005, 05:09:38 AM
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Computer programmers know the zone aswell. Its called that state in which the variables and methods flow through your mind with minimal resistance or distractions, completely involved in building the code.

It takes a good programmer in a good situation at least 15 minutes to get into the zone. But for them it is definately something they do and not involuntary. I am not much of an athlete, but it seems to me to be the same, just get your mind into the thing you're doing.

Just my 2 cents :)