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August 04, 2014, 10:09:22 PM
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 This shall be the first video of many.  Keep in mind that this is neither meant to confirm nor debunk the existence of psionic phenomena but to showcase my theory upon it. The theory is that due to the subtle nature of this abillity, the mass of an object that can be manipulated is of no consequence.  The object in the video being manipulated is a 4-way lugnut wrench for changing vehicle tires.

  In the future i plan on making videos of larger and larger spinning objects, starting with this 5 pound wrench, and later manipulating objects in upwards of hundreds of pound and on to objects weighing thousands of pounds.

  Here is the video.
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIQUyS9GPlk
« Last Edit: August 12, 2014, 06:59:52 PM by supadude »
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August 04, 2014, 10:14:11 PM
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Sorry i did not make the url into a hyperlink, i am posting from a rather inadequate smartphone right now, so i do not have the luxury of being able to poat how i wish all of the time. If a forum moderator would be so kind, if you could do that for me it would be greatly appreciated  for eas of access.

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August 05, 2014, 02:07:54 AM
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August 05, 2014, 02:15:28 AM
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I don't mean to be a dick, but, I have to weigh in on this...

There was absolutely nothing about the way that object spun that had anything to do with PK, but is pure physics.  The reason it did not just come to a stop, is because the string holding it up is coiled and eventually this coiling will overpower that slight rotation.  When it comes to a stop, gravity pulls the object down, releasing the coil causing the counter rotation.  This is completely repeated with every single house hold object you own when tied to a string, even to include the very thin dental floss you are using.  When I was young, I used to play with this effect all the time.

Sorry man.  I would rather bring this up to you here, now, then to let you get blindsided on CNN...


P.S.  I want everybody who wants to demonstrate PK publicly to first scrutinize what they're doing, ask questions, get feedback.  You need a scientific approach before you try to go public.
« Last Edit: August 05, 2014, 02:19:05 AM by Drew »

August 05, 2014, 02:18:03 AM
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Yup, the movement was natural, but I am pretty sure that supadude used psi during trying to move it, I sensed it roughly between 3:10 and 3:11

August 05, 2014, 02:24:08 AM
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There was absolutely nothing about the way that object spun that had anything to do with PK, but is pure physics.

I should have mentioned this before, but I worded that in bold very carefully.  There were some additional movements, but I think that is explained away as to where the string was tied and the shape of the head that generated the movement, but I couldn't really see it so I truly say for sure.

August 05, 2014, 04:18:21 AM
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Ahh yes, i have carefully considered this effect you speak of, right after i made this video i showed it to my sister who expressed the same concern and i have manipulated objects much heavier that were not attatched by this means but through a fixed, lubricated pivot. The video is extremely questionable in that regard and serves as merely an example in this beginning stage, i welcome any sort of criticism regarding it.  The equipment used was substandard and i was worried about exeeding the limits of the device in making an extra long video where i could stop it and start it extra times (in which a video like that is in the works as well) to dispel that notion. i can actually perfm such but i was mentally under the constrant of time.

  The duration in which the psi effect is present is quite short for the length of the video. Also my cross examination of drews point is that the object in question is quite heavy and without applied intent it would have kept spinning for some time to come yet( as well as not being able to stop it again and change its direction again due to time constraints upon the device, better equipment is in the works as well).
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August 05, 2014, 08:35:37 AM
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For your future videos, I would suggest including a control group of sortsó videotape yourself using telekinesis on the object, and have a video beside it of the object's natural movement. Better lighting or a lighter colored object, too, to make it stand out against the dark carpet.

I think this is going to be a great thing, if all the variables can be ruled out.
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August 05, 2014, 10:28:52 AM
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This has been discussed extensively and it is widely agreed upon that any sort of video can be faked, no matter how many variables are accounted for.  That being said, i plan on working with larger and larger objects and ruling out further possibilities as i go in order to sort of bring some semblance of credibility back to this touchy subject, and gain the attention of some key people in the field. The end goal of this is to really bring credibility back parapsychology as a whole so that we can finally get more people focused upon researching the underlying mechanisms of this phenomena, rather than solely concentrating on just evidence.
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August 06, 2014, 12:53:30 AM
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i plan on working with larger and larger objects

Personal recommendation for you:  Practice with larger objects, demonstrate with lighter objects.  Your video was just over 11 minutes long, all of which culminated into you, after sitting down and staring at the object for quite some time, claimed to have performed PK.  That's OK if you're just practicing, but if you want to show results, I recommend demonstrating with an object your can manipulate more... how do I put this... responsively (?).  Something you can say what you're about to do, sit down, and do it immediately, not 7 minutes later.

August 06, 2014, 06:46:56 AM
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Not many people attain immediate psionic focus, i will admit it takes some time for me to concentrate, and the point of larger objects is to rule out the increasing variables that come with using small objects like the psi wheel for a video.

But i have been working on the twisting string assertion and i went and bought some fishing line pivots of sorts and it seems i am up against a brick wall. Not without extreme anchoring all over my initial setup does the pivot work but then the fishing pivot is just so crude that it inhibits any fee motion of the object at all, so a completly new setup is possibly warranted or as you say, i need to showcase a better psi effect.
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August 06, 2014, 06:53:31 AM
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I also have accuired a 16 megapixel fujifilm digital camera to shoot  better videos. I had also spraypainted the lugnut wrench green for better contrast. So i am open to setup suggestions, especially from you drew, you are helping me refine this tremendously.

Other objects i was thinking about using was a ceiling fan, or a childrens merry go round as that should be sufficiently large enough with its own set pivot, but i would need to find one that isn not severely unbalanced and unlubricated. I am open to suggestions for much larger objects because od the aforementioned, also as long as it is a freely spinning rotating object as i am most fanilliar with manipulating a rotating object.
And the reason is aa follows;
I will say this here and now, i am quite out of practice, and have meditated rarely for a while. This endeavor also has a personal agenda to motivate myself and keep me working towards a goal. That being said, i am not letting this become an excuse for myself as i am very familliar with my abilities as i have used them before, and they do not just go away with time out of practice.
« Last Edit: August 06, 2014, 07:09:40 AM by supadude »
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August 06, 2014, 11:39:31 AM
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I think there's nothing wrong with taking plenty of time to focus in a video.  People can fast forward if they want, and you can even include a note telling them where to fast forward to.  I generally consider it a strong sign something foul is going on when a video shows someone immediately go from talking to "doing psi", without any attempt to focus.  It's better for a person with honest intentions to take the time they need to do it right.

As for this particular video, i agree with the string-coiling comments.  That sort of coiling is likely going on.  Although it is a reasonable selection for a practice target, one can't start it moving in the same sort of motion one is going to produce with psi.  I understand the psychological benefit of getting it moving for the sake of actualization assistance, but if you're going to rotate it, then wiggle it, don't rotate it.  Or if you start it rotating, then use psi to swing it, rather than rotate it.  Or if you rotate it, make it rotate faster than you started (adds energy, and thus won't happen through ordinary physics), or wiggle it a little and get it swinging higher than it starts out (again, won't happen with ordinary physics).  Also, it can be good to start it wiggling or whatever while you're explaining what you're going to do, so that the viewer can observe the ordinary physical motion produced by your tap, before you sit down and make a new sort of motion with psi.
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August 06, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
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That sounds resonable kobok i will just try wiggling it in my next video. Also should i create a separate control video for my first one? I did an unrecorded video test and with about the same force i spun it with earlier, the object kept spinning for over  ten minutes.
  If i just wiggle the object like in my next one should i create a control for that as well?
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August 06, 2014, 11:16:28 PM
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I don't think it could hurt, but it would not be as important.
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