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Is the current implementation of the karma system flawed?

Yes, and changes need to be made.
5 (22.7%)
Yes, but no changes need to be made at this time.
4 (18.2%)
No, the current system is not flawed.
13 (59.1%)

Total Members Voted: 22

Voting closed: September 25, 2012, 03:55:14 AM

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September 19, 2012, 11:17:28 AM
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Most polls only get around 20 or a little less here, as that seems to be about the number of people who care to cast a vote.  The current vote level is a particularly high number of votes for a poll that most people here know is not actually actionable, and is simply advisory.

And the calls advising a change to the system, at current count, are 5 out of 18.  (No one but you seems to care about assessing ephemeral satisfaction with the system, outside of a passing interest.  We primarily care about what people think the system should be like.)
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September 21, 2012, 01:03:26 PM
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With less than four days to go (Has it been that long already?), I don't see too many more votes coming in.  As it stands, I think this vote proves that the majority of the site is pleased with the current karma system as it is.

September 21, 2012, 01:51:28 PM
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I can say I voted "Yes, but no changes need to be made at this time." due to no system is prefect how ever the system works for its current purpose... How ever constructive criticism would be helpful on improving or streamlining process and add ons. Like the voting system it only exists to give you a rough estimate of constructive criticism. How ever it could be made better but remember it is not a key feature of this site only an "ADD ON" to the original idea. So if it continues to cause a big problem they could removed it but I do enjoy it. Also Searcher your personal attacks such as name calling instead of giving us constructive criticism will continue to make me vote your karma down. I know most of the people who are not into magic like myself but mainly into martial arts due to my job. I would prefer not to be called a junior Jedi if you want to call me any horrid word "baby killer", "jar head", "Ground pounder" would be more appropriate.
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September 25, 2012, 06:50:41 AM
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The vote has ended, as of a couple hours ago.  Of those who cared enough to vote, and no matter which way you look at it, the majority goes to "No, the current system is not flawed."

September 25, 2012, 07:10:00 AM
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Agreed Trowa; 22 out of a membership of 17751 are bothered, which means 17729 couldn’t give a dam whether the system exists or not. So lets go back to the original post in that people say when and why they have used the system. Like kobok say about the voting it’s not actionable but purely advisory and keeps others in the know.
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September 25, 2012, 07:18:37 AM
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Agreed Trowa; 22 out of a membership of 17751 are bothered, which means 17729 couldn’t give a dam whether the system exists or not. So lets go back to the original post in that people say when and why they have used the system. Like kobok say about the voting it’s not actionable but purely advisory and keeps others in the know.

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September 25, 2012, 07:19:35 AM
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Agreed Trowa; 22 out of a membership of 17751 are bothered, which means 17729 couldn’t give a dam whether the system exists or not. So lets go back to the original post in that people say when and why they have used the system. Like kobok say about the voting it’s not actionable but purely advisory and keeps others in the know.

Oh just give up, will you? You lost, at least try to appear to be a good loser rather than whinging and coming up with gibberish to make yourself feel better.

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September 25, 2012, 07:22:18 AM
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Actually, Searcher.  There's a quote by an unknown person (previously attributed to Harry Truman but it's not confirmed) that says "Decisions are made by those who show up."  It can't be said what those 17729 think (and since probably over 3000 of those are spambots, I doubt they think much at all), so for all purposes, the 22 people who voted is the entire relevant member base.

It may be time to cut your losses.

September 25, 2012, 07:39:07 AM
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yiPEEE at last some one as said it’s about winning and loosing and not for the benefit of the community. Make your way to the top table Vecna for your honesty (I’d give you a click but I cannot :P)

Unfortunately Silver Archer your no is purely advisory

Believe it or not Trowa….. I had, but it’s that #20 & #21. To coin a phrase from a film – nobody puts baby in the corner and! Wee’s on him. Why couldn’t they just carry on playing with the other jr jedi?

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September 25, 2012, 07:46:20 AM
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You are so far off into the deep end I am surprised you can still see the shore to communicate with.

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September 25, 2012, 07:52:26 AM
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Just a passing observation: why do you always come on as hidden Vacna?
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September 25, 2012, 08:13:43 AM
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The good of the community is something that the Veritas staff always does have at heart. The karma system was originally implemented with this in mind; observing that similar systems have been productive for fostering and encouraging healthier communities elsewhere, we opted to bring that here as an experiment. So far, we've seen many individuals taking on more productive attitudes and demeanors in pursuit of better score. We feel it has been pretty successful at what we'd hoped it would do. Most of the memberbase that we've spoken to (and polled, in this instance), have found it useful as well, for knowing how the rest of the community evaluates a particular poster that one might not have seen before; it tells a fast story about this new poster. Nothing is ever perfect, and if there's any particular adjustments or suggestions anyone has to tune the system, we will gladly evaluate them. The poll suggests that there is no urgent need for change.

If you are unhappy with your karmic score, Searcher, what you might do is consider what you might do differently or change that might change people's perception of you for the better. For starters, you might want to tone down the level of condescension and rudeness in your arguments.

In fact, I would advise that you do so in general. We want things to be respectful and civil, here. The constant tirade of insults, from "Jr. Jedi" to what have you, are crossing the line. Such continued belittling and disrespectful conduct, to anyone, will be regarded as an actionable rules violation. This is an official warning.
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September 25, 2012, 08:32:35 AM
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@Mobius: Really beautiful, Mobius, well done, well done :). I really love your message, there is something very beautiful about it, very social, I am really missing just few words in your hot speech. The words are:
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-Working for better future
-Power for the workers
-Kill enemies of our beautiful socialistic utopia

Well, the last one was nearly there...