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« on: November 23, 2010, 07:39:26 PM »

The Pyramids of Giza represent the sky in 10,500BC

As Above, So Below

Video about just how exact and precise the Great Pyramid is
YouTube - Great Pyramid - Graham Hancock

Video with Graham Hancock that talks about Giza as well as other ancient sites, and the star alignments to 10,500 BC
YouTube - graham hancock egypt and mayan astronemy

Site with clips
Secret Chamber in Pyramid Explored

Orion, Taurus, Sirius and The Milky Way
during the Age of Leo ~ circa 10,500 BC  

The Pyramids mirror Orion's belt

The Giza Pyrmaids are aligned in a perfect 45 degree angle just like Orion's Belt is in the year 10,500 BC. 2 stars aligned 45 degrees, the 3rd offset

The shafts of the Pyramids also point directly at certain constellations


Very ancient people in many different traditions placed very special importance to precessional numbers, and based their practices and monuments on constellations and precession. That is very advanced knowledge, much more advanced knowledge than we at one time thought any ancient people had.  The discovery that it was known thousands of years ago, even into pre-history, is incredible.  

Graham Hancock showed that the Zodiac, and the knowledge of "precession", existed in ancient Egypt from the earliest times-
Precession is the wobble-effect of the earth's axis which makes the stars move one degree every 72 years, or one complete cycle every 25,920 years.


As a result, astrologically the sun rises on the spring equinox against a new constellation every 2160 years. Today that constellation is about to be Aquarius, in Roman times it was Pisces. Before that Aries and Taurus. This constellation is considered the "ruling" constellation, with the solsticial and equinoctial constellations forming the "four corners" of the astrological "earth.

Zodiac in Egypt

10,500 BC is when orion's belt in the sky aligns with the Pyramids at the lowest point possible on the horizon, and also, at that point it is a pefect 45 degree angle. It is the first time in the precessional cycle that Orion is due South while the precessional age becomes the Age of Leo. In any given year, the peak point that Orion reaches while traveling through it's orbits and ecliptic, is when it is due south. 10,500BC is the "first time" and the lowest point Orion appears. It is the only year the Giza Plateau matches the sky exactly.

Sky and Stars in the Horizon at 10,500 BC. How it actually would look-

Here's an image from illustrating some aspects at Giza and the alignments to the sky and stars in 10,500 BC the beginning of the age of Leo. In 10,500 BC the Sphinx faces due east and matches the Constellation of Leo, while if you turn 90 degrees and face due south, the Pyramids exactly match Orion's belt. Click on link to see how the Pyramids and sky look in 10,500 BCE

So that is quite impressive that people 10,500 years ago were aware of planetary cycles we have only now rediscovered in relatively recent times! Precession is a 26,000 year long cycle based on the wobble of the North pole!

the southern shaft points to the Orion constellation
and others em-pr...mids/page02.htm /gem-pr...ds/page1002.htm s.htm  
The Official Graham Hancock Website: Forum
Graham Hancock has His Day: BBC Program Found to be Unfair    
The Great Pyramid's north-south axis is aligned to within three-sixtieths of a degree of true north-south. It would be worthwhile to note that this alignment is more accurate than that of the Meridian Building at the Greenwich Observatory in London, which deviates from true north by nine-sixtieths of a degree.

Pyramids of Giza

The math of the Egyptian God/Atlantean Thoth. Appears very similar in structure to chinese philosophy, and yet at the same time contains pythagorean and fibonacci numbers-

Tablets of Thoth
from "The Keys to Life and death", a part referring to Chakra cutlivation-
The Emerald Tablets of Thoth    
    When thou hast learned to hold thine own balance,
then shalt thou draw on the balance of Earth.
Exist then shalt thou while Earth is existing,
changing in form, only when Earth, too, shalt change:
Tasting not of death, but one with this planet,
holding thy form till all pass away.

List ye, O man, whilst I give the secret so that
ye, too, shalt taste not of change.
One hour each day shalt thou lie
with thine head pointed to the
place of the positive pole (north).
One hour each day shalt thy head be
pointed to the place of the negative pole (south).
Whilst thy head is placed to the northward,
hold thou thy consciousness from the chest to the head.

And when thy head is placed southward,
hold thou thy thought from chest to the feet.
Hold thou in balance once in each seven,
and thy balance will retain the whole of its strength.
Aye, if thou be old, thy body will freshen

and thy strength will become as a youth's.
This is the secret known to the Masters
by which they hold off the fingers of Death.
Neglect not to follow the path I have shown,
for when thou hast passed beyond years
to a hundred to neglect
it will mean the coming of Death.

Hear ye, my words, and follow the pathway.
Keep thou thy balance and live on in life."

and The Keys of "Magic"
    When unto thee comes a feeling,
drawing thee nearer to the darker gate,
examine thine heart and find if the feeling
thou hast has come from within.
If thou shalt find the darkness thine own thoughts,
banish them forth from the place in thy mind.

Send through thy body a wave of vibration,
irregular first and regular second,
repeating time after time until free.
Direct it in waves from thine head to thy foot.

But if thou findest thine heart is not darkened,
be sure that a force is directed to thee.
Only by knowing can thou overcome it.
Only be wisdom can thou hope to be free.
Knowledge brings wisdom and wisdom is power.
Attain and ye shall have power o'er all.

Seek ye first a place bound by darkness.
Place ye a circle around about thee.
Stand erect in the midst of the circle.
Use thou this formula, and you shalt be free.
Raise thou thine hands to the dark space above thee
. Close thou thine eyes and draw in the LIGHT.

Call to the SPIRIT OF LIGHT through the Space-Time,
using these words and thou shalt be free:
"Fill thou my body, O SPIRIT OF LIfe,
fill thou my body with SPIRIT OF LIGHT.
Come from the FLOWER
that shines through the darkness.
Come from the HALLS where the Seven Lords rule.

Name them by name, I, the Seven:
and SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT--Nine.

Pre-historic Yoga
The History of Tibetan Yoga    
meditation :: FREE online meditation techniques instruction    
In order to obtain this energy sensation be prepared to find yourself breathing just a few breaths, or as many as 144.
yoga exercises The Star Exercise/Technique reiki    

There is something which seperates east and west far in prehistory, concerning prehistoric civilization. But there are still great similarities. Graham Hancock has shown that both traditions are based on precession, that the sky changes by 1 degree every seventy two years.

There's a reson the numbers 72, 108, 36, Fibonacci sequences, and Pi come up all over the world, and it's not because Mr. Hancock thought it up. Those definitely are key numbers to traditions from all over the world. Most Taoist systems are based on combinations of 72 and 36. 72 and 36 come up all the time in Taoism. 108 is a common Buddhist number. 72 is also an Essene number. The fact that Mr. Hancock shows that those are also key numbers in Egyt, definitely shows somethig impressive.Tibetan Yoga is based on 144.

The conclusion the evidence leans towards, indicates that ancient Egyptians had their own enlightenment systems, and that they are related to the Essenes, Buddists,Taoists. As Hancock put it, a lost culture of "astronomer preists" who are the foundation of all those cultures.

- 72 is Hancock's "ruling" number because it is an important precessional number. The stars move one degree every 72 years

- 72 is also a key number in all spiritual systems, and so is astrology

- Giza is a representation or actually a "mirrior" of the Milky Way, and Taoist practices are also concerned with the milky way and "mirror" the sky in much the same way. Taoist practices start facing south and "mirrior" the sky in a very similar way.

So the reason 144 is a base number for all these independant traditions, is due to astrology and precession... interesting.

John Anthony West is a Pythagorean who showed the Sphinx and possibly more of Giza is 12,000 years old-
World Mysteries - John Anthony West

But he also proved something else just as interesting, that not only are the ancient systems and mystery schools all over the world based on astrology, but they are also based on Fibonacci number sequences, which is how 3 dimensional growth as well as the 4th dimension is measured. The name YHVH itself can be a representation of this-

Kaballah also contains the same principles of the Giza pyramids as the name YHWH, and pythagorean concepts

    The Tetragrammaton

By arranging the four letters of the Great Name, (I H V H), in the form of the Pythagorean Tetractys, the 72 powers of the Great Name of God are manifested.

* = I = 10 = 10
* * = H I = 5+10 = 15
* * * = V H I = 6+5+10 = 21
* * * * = H V H I = 5+6=5+10 = 26
The Great Name of God = 72


This rare cut shows the name of God in seventy-two languages inscribed upon the petals of a symbolic sunflower. Above the circle are the seventy-two powers of God according to the Hebrew Kabbalah. Below are two trees, that on the left bearing the symbols of the planets and that on the right the signs of the zodiac and the names of the tribes of Israel. The esoteric doctrines of the Kabbalah are in alignment with the secret teachings of all the schools of philosophy, but the method by which its secrets are revealed to the wise and concealed from the ignorant is most unusual.

So I can't say for certain that Egyptian and Chinese traditions are the exact same, but in the sense of mirroring the stars on the ground along a similar axis and course, they are doing the exact same thing just in different parts of the globe. It's also quite possible if you look at the diagrams on Mr. Hancock's site, that the zodiacs and astrology used in Egypt, are based on Jupiter and ecliptic, like the chinese Zodiac. I can't say for sure, but it looks like to me the most likely occurence
Feng Shui Seminars with Roger Green    

these pages, they talk about how the Giza pyramids and the chinese Lo Pan both mirror the sky in a similar way. Some Taoist systems are totally astrological, contain 72 sets, and are not to be taught to others until the person has been practicing 70 years
Lo Pan    

articles from Graham htm
The Official Graham Hancock Website: The BBC Horizon Scandal    

Chinese and Tibetan Pyramid.  Pyramids in China - Crystalinks    

here's a site which compares chinese astrology to the Giza layout a little bit
Pyramids at Giza    
Untitled Document    

Precise Astronomical knowledge-
Qimancy, Chinese Divination by Qi    
wife photos artist bio pics at    

Chinese Astrology has been shown to also be based on Precession
Reading the Green Language of Light - Vincent Bridges    
    "The McKennas demonstrated this by overlaying the 384 lines of the 64 hexagrams (6 x 64 = 384) on the 13 month lunar calendar (13 X 29.53 days = 383.89 days). They then used these basic units to develop a temporal lock with the solar/sunspot cycle, the Zodiacal Ages, and the length of the Great Year of precessional motion. With the same increment, 64, they found it was possible to assemble a 26 step model of space/time from the size/age of the universe down to Planck's Constant. In this view, the I Ching is a fractal model of all that is, was, or will be. It is also hologramic, in that the piece, the I Ching, contains the information of the whole, the evolving universe."

So Ancient Egyptians, Greeks, and other cultures including the ancient Chinese also retained the knowledge of precession cycles.

The Pyramids of Giza are built along probably a north/south and planetary alignment, and the shafts are directed towards certain constellations. Graham Hancock, Robert Buvaul, and others have shown this. That in itself is also similar to some Asian traiditions.

Wu Ji, Tai Ji, Yin Yang, 8 trigrams, and Color s.htm
     Planet Art /5/asp5_4a.html

Some cool video clips here of 1700 year old qigong school from China and Tibet. It contains 72 sets in total.
     Qiqigong - Wild Goose Qigong with Dr. Hu    
     Tse Qigong Centre    

clips of the cultivation forms-

Check out how similar the Dayan qigong posture at the very bottom of this page, is to Yoga    
7 STAR OPENING GONG: Relates to Big Dipper constellation and North Star. Benefits the joints and kidneys and balances the heart and lungs.

LONG VISION DAN GONG: Develops the 'Sky-Eye' potential.    
  Traditionally the skill had been handed down for generations to one person only, and by custom the inheritor was not allowed to pass it on before reaching the age of 70.

That is very interesting considering how concerned this tradition is with astrology, and Mr. Hancock's finding in other areas of the world

I highly suspect that the tradition is because the sky moves one degree every 72 years. The Grandmaster of Dayan Qigong died at age 108, also not a coincidence
  Dayan Qigong (Wild Goose Qigong) originated from within the Kunlun mountains, to the west of China, north of Tibet during the Jin Dynasty, around 1,800 years ago. Kunlun Shan is traditionally one of China's spiritual mountains. The Daoist monks who resided there developed their Qigong from observing the movements and behaviour of the Wild Geese (known as birds of longevity) which shared the mountains with them. The monks combined their knowledge of Chinese medical principles with the birds' natural movements to create an exceedingly healthy and graceful exercise.

Dayan Qigong contains both vigorous and gentle movements, actions combined with stillness, and beautiful postures. The movements work directly with the acupuncture points and channels, stimulating and opening them, to allow the free flow of Qi. Vigorous movements, including jumping, shaking, slapping, and swooping, release negative Qi while the gentle movements gather fresh Qi. Meditation stores the freshly accumulated Qi.

World Mysteries - Mystic Places - The Great Pyramid of Giza in Egypt

Info on the Falun Pattern. Note that it is compatible with Tao cultivation, and also the order of colors in which it changes. I think the main difference between buddha and Tao cultivation is that a buddha offers salvation to anyone sincere, where only a few pre-destined disciples learn in the lineage of Taoist systems much of the time. It also represents the universe including the Milky Way
     The Falun Emblem

- Hancock has shown that a certain combination of the 72 temples at Angkor Wat(once thought to be a myth) are mirroring the draco constellation. And that there are 108 buddha statues there which represent the "churning of the milky ocean" and are representing precession
Angkor Wat, Cambodia    

Here's a critical article on him that still admits there is some substance to his claims-
Dusting for Fingerprints II

Actually it's not just Giza either
Troubled Times: Orion Connection
the pyramid of Zawyat Al Aryan and the pyramid of Abu Ruwash were reprenting stars in the constellation of Orion, namely Bellatrix and Saiph, and that the two pyramids of Dahshur correlated to two stars in the Taurus-Hyades constellation, namely Aldebaran and Epsilon Tauri.

Team Atlantis - The Orion Pyramid Theory: Part III
The core of the Orion-Pyramids correlation theory, which I started to develop in 1983, was based on the pattern of the three stars forming the Belt Of Orion, namely Al Nitak, Alnilam and Mintaka (Zeta, Epsilon and Delta Orionis). This theory was presented during 1983 to 1986 to various eminent Egyptologists and other academics, including Dr. I.E.S. Edwards, Dr. T.G.H. James, Dr. Jaromir Malek, Dr. Cathleen Keller and others. It was subsequently submitted to Dr. Alessandra Nibbi, editor of the Oxford journal Discussion In Egyptology in 1988 and published in Vol. 13, 1989, pp. 7-18 under the title A Master Plan For The Three Pyramids Of Giza Based On the Configuration Of The Three Stars Of The Belt Of Orion.


Troubled Times: Orion Connection

 Team Atlantis - The Orion Pyramid Theory: Part III

Kate Spence also showed astrological alignments that she published in the journal "Nature", but I think Robert Buvaul pointed out a few things that are hipocritical and inconsistent in her work. It seems she basically ripped off Buvaul's theory, but only used alignements that were possible in 2,500 BC and she discarded alignments of the ground plan that match 10,000 BC

 BBC News | SCI/TECH | Pyramids lined up with the stars

Article on it by Mr. Buvaul-
 The Official Graham Hancock Website: Forum
Finally Kate Spence knows, or should know, the ethics of scholarly publication. Her failure to make proper reference to the published works of Dr. Virginia Trimble* and myself (especially because in the latter case the same stellar alignment is used to arrive at practically the same dating of the Great Pyramid) is thus surprising and inexplicable in view of the circumstances. But then the whole approach of the BBC Horizon programme, Atlantis Reborn, in which Kate Spence participated, was most inexplicable as well. The Broadcasting Standards Commission branded this programme’s treatment of my work on the stellar alignments of the Giza Pyramid ‘unfair’. It now remains to be seen how Kate Spence's claims in Nature will fare.
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2010, 12:11:43 PM »

Just to make sure you know, I don't think anyone reading this really understands what your point is, if you have one.  Thus, it's probably a waste of your time.

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2010, 12:49:04 PM »

I always find amusing the degree of dedication Kilik puts forth to research all that, but I never really take the time to make some meaning out of all of this.  embarassed
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2010, 06:13:19 PM »

Everyone is going to have their own understanding based on their current level of knowledge and current level of consciousness. No one is going to be able to grasp everything in it right away.

For example, if the only thing someone got out of this is being able to say wow thats kind of interesting that the Pyramids are aligned to Orions belt, then that is fine for them. If someone were to really think about it further they may find the astronomical alignments of other sites, not the just in Egypt. If someone investigates even further they may come to realize the historical significance of the date 10,500 BC and what it means to human civilization. Going even further someone may find deeper insights to the mystery schools and spiritual traditions of various lands.

There is always some mystery, and there is always a deeper layer beyond what you currently understand.

In the future things will become more and more clear as well.
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2010, 08:42:37 PM »

The only deep mystery is why you keep making posts with dozens of links and/or images without making a coherent point in them.

(I was going to make a post for you pointing out why most of what you posted above was incorrect, and showing you the publications which contradict it, but I then decided there was no point given your history of unwillingness to learn anything which contradicts your beliefs.)

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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2010, 10:44:18 PM »

If you cant see the coherent points it says more about your level of understanding than mine.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2010, 08:04:31 AM »

If kobok were the only one who thinks it does not make sense then your argument might have been correct. As it is, however, you are virtually the only one who seems to think this is correct. Thus, if we are going to make comparisons based upon people's understanding, this means either you are making a mistake, or most people are wrong. If you had presented but one good argument, I would be more inclined to believe you, but you have been incapable of producing any so far.
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