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March 11, 2008, 07:09:23 AM
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Actually, the Nephilim were a group of beings that were born as a result of angels having sex with human women. And it is mentioned in the bible, as well as extrabiblical sources http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nephilim

I've not heard any proof whatsoever of their existence, so could the thread-starter please tell us where he heard about this "nephilim skull" from?

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March 11, 2008, 11:09:38 AM
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Then, who were the ones cast out, or were they the children of the ones cast out?
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March 11, 2008, 12:39:12 PM
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No. Larger skull != better psychic abilities. Bigger brain != better psychic abilities.
And nephilim = don't exist.

Ha...the day when a teacher of Veritas claims that a member of the hierarchy of angels doesn't exist.

Perhaps you understand what an angel is, XIII, perhaps you do not.  Either way, to make a definitive statement such as that is rather presumptuous without evidence.

Of course I will say they exist, but I suppose beforehand that this is quite inconsequential as many here, maybe even most will not believe the statement, just as others do not believe XIII's statement.  Ah...converse relationship, both resulting in a proposed fallacy on either end.

March 11, 2008, 05:14:38 PM
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Solstice: The Nephilim were the children of the angels who were not kicked out of heaven, because such relationships happened before any angels were kicked out. In the book of Enoch it specifies that such relationships was one of the many reasons that some angels were tossed out, though I do not recall off the top of my head if the bible specifies that as well.

Oriens: XIII is quite right when he says the Nephilim = don't exist. The Nephilim perished in the flood with the rest of (the most of) mankind. Perhaps you are thinking of a different "order of angels".

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March 11, 2008, 06:23:58 PM
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Oriens: Angels do not have skulls.
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March 11, 2008, 09:33:59 PM
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"The story of the Nephilim is chronicled more fully in the Book of Enoch (part of Ethiopian biblical canon). Enoch, as well as Jubilees, connects the origin of the Nephilim with the fallen angels, and in particular with the Grigori (watchers). Samyaza, an angel of high rank, is described as leading a rebel sect of angels in a descent to earth to instruct humans in righteousness. The tutelage went on for a few centuries, but soon the angels pined for the human females and began to instruct the women in magic and conjuring. The angels consummated their lust, and as a result produced hybrid offspring: the Nephilim." (Quoted from wiki)
Other references seem to associate the Nephilim with the Lemurio-Atlantean races being the last descendants of such "which begot children on female animals, of species now long extinct ; thus producing dumb men, "monsters," as the Stanzas have it." (The Secret Doctrine)
So it stands to reason that the Nephilim would have once had skulls though they would now LONG have been dust so whether that was a factor in what psychic ability they may have had would be pure hypothesis.

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March 18, 2008, 05:03:01 PM
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OK people calm down you're getting me! exited. OK to begin with the nephilliim were the offs springs of angels who fell out of heaven. the watchers are the one sent to keep an eye out on earth, they saw that the daughters of Adam were beautiful cause of their long hair, and they acted on their impulses and mated thus the nephilim walked the earth now the nephilim have great knowledge of the metaphysical, geometry, chemistry, etc... they were heroes of old men of renown, in other words "gods", Olympians, annanuki, Thor, Amman Ra, all were nephilim (semi gods). as for proof of this they have more than just one skull i think 10, they also got human fossils the size of 32 feet, yea i was amazed too. they also have many texts and hieroglyphics of giants and people with en-longed skull, the Egyptians and mayans and early Greeks and even cavemen have texts or drawings of them i think is type foolish to try to dismiss the idea of it. as for the angels, to be kicked out of heaven into earth they had to be turned into some physical form so that they could mate. so yea at least the fallen ones have or had physical form.
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March 18, 2008, 08:32:31 PM
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Where are you getting this information from? You're mixing facts with stuff I've never heard before. 32 foot skulls and 10 heads? As for the Olympians and Thor, that's an entirely different religion that has nothing to do with the nephilim mentioned in Genesis that died in the flood in Genesis (in case you didn't know, the flood happened approximately sometime between/around 1500BCE to 1200BCE whereas the Greeks didn't come about until around 800BCE)

Can you provide any links to online sources or titles of books or television documentaries to back up what you're saying?

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March 19, 2008, 02:24:00 PM
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no you are misunderstanding what im saying i mean if nephilim are real and were worshiped and known they were the gods that all religions talk of. as for the 32 feet skulls lmao imagine lol na i meant 32 feet full skeletons (ribcage, spine, etc..). and they have a handful of fossils looking much like human skulls but with an enlarged skull. im sorry for the misunderstanding. oo and the nephilim were around after the flood too.

as for sources as much as i want to i cant. its very complicated.
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March 19, 2008, 03:31:35 PM
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8534397625940239162

Think Zeon is talking about this kind of thing, which could be easily faked I would point out.
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March 19, 2008, 04:36:56 PM
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nope i dismissed this as fake as soon as i saw it but i have my resons to belive in what i say.
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March 19, 2008, 08:41:39 PM
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I have found no evidence of any 32-foot human fossils anywhere. Find me this, and I'll take you more seriously.
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March 20, 2008, 11:27:52 AM
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Firstly, my apologies for reading your post wrong, but I agree with XIII in that I have seen no evidence of your claims.

EDIT: I have, by the way, seen faked photos of such large skeletons, and if you search for giant skeleton human you'll see many websites with faked photos and other websites with the originals plus the explaination of why the fakes are faked. If a real human skeleton that large were ever found, it would be on the front of every majour science and archeology magazine in at least north america, and likely the world.

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March 20, 2008, 01:37:59 PM
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again you misinterpret what i wrote, i did say the there 32 foot human skeleton as for them being real I'm sorry for not including this. but as for the starchild and the rest of evidence like him it seem to be pretty real. and the hieroglyphics and texts and paintings that is quite hard to deny. if you guys wanna get a good source try the annunaki, and read a bit about the mayans and the king who helped them build their pyramids or w.e. i don't know what they're called lol

ooh and XII you gotta keep your mind a Little open on this. bare with me baby lol :bunny:
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March 20, 2008, 03:31:37 PM
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The 'starchild', as according to wikipedia, and forgive me if I'm referencing a different source, has absolutely nothing to do with the nephilim. The rest of it is more religious mythos, and religious paintings of a wide array of subjects exist, including dragons, unicorns, and anything else you want to throw in there. This does not mean, however, that dragons and unicorns have ever existed. Without physical evidence of physical nephilim, I will assume that they never existed.

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<@kobok> And if you push hard enough, you can shove quite a lot into a chicken.

<@Trowa> When someone told him to jump off a cliff, he argued the semantic meanings of "jump" and "cliff", and then proceeded to do just that.