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Are You practicing the Steps in Initiaion into Hermetics?

Yes, very strictly.
47 (15.8%)
Yes, mixed with my other practices.
112 (37.7%)
Kinda, of and on again.
53 (17.8%)
No, it doesn't fit with me.
49 (16.5%)
No, What is IIH?
28 (9.4%)
No, don't have the time.
8 (2.7%)

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September 29, 2011, 11:27:10 AM
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Aunt Clair: Thnaks for your reply.  I've never heard of anyone getting physical results from the elemental exercises in this book, so I was wondering if it was possible.  Would it be better to repeat them over and over until you get better, or are there other ways of making the elemental energy more potent?

September 29, 2011, 03:05:56 PM
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Over the weekend my teacher condensed the water element to such a degree that it formed a rain cloud, and then dispersed it a few moments later.  You can very well condense an element into it's physical form, but it takes a very high level of skill.  You're most likely not going to create physical fire for example before reaching Initiation or Gnosis, so to put so much emphasis on such mundane feats is useless, use the exercises to master the elements in yourself, and then you will have mastery of them externally after that soon enough.  Everything in it's time.

October 01, 2011, 03:57:19 AM
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« Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 05:42:58 PM by Octo »

October 01, 2011, 07:24:24 AM
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you and me in same boat then Octo, good luck :)

October 01, 2011, 07:51:16 AM
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I dont think so.. :S
« Last Edit: October 25, 2012, 05:43:54 PM by Octo »

October 01, 2011, 09:52:18 AM
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October 01, 2011, 01:14:43 PM
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Melchizedek, what's the key?

October 01, 2011, 02:31:40 PM
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Melchizedek, what's the key?

This is for you to figure out for yourself

October 02, 2011, 03:48:39 PM
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Mine is not a better way Just another way
I am by no means a master just a student
what I value is not the only thing that is to be valued.
And my way is not the only way
JESUS IS LORD!

October 04, 2011, 08:11:48 AM
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Melchizedek,
the key = is no matter which path you take, how long it takes you, sooner or later, as long as you keep going up, you will end up at the same place, as anyone else (i.e. the summit)

is that what you meant?

October 04, 2011, 09:13:02 AM
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Unless you go the extra mile, then you will start going down on the opposite side of pyramid, right?

October 04, 2011, 11:43:22 AM
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The 4 sides of the pyramid (earth/manifestation) all emanate from the single top peak (spirit), and so though there is an illusion of separation, all is in fact pure consciousness.

That's what I think when I see a pyramid at least, the Spirit emanating downward into Manifestation.

October 04, 2011, 02:56:29 PM
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but of course trismegistos, there is a whole chapter in the big golden dawn book just about that, and they do different things with it, opening it up and closing it down etc

about going the extra mile, one must be careful not to force themselves too much, or it will look like they are progressing but they are not, things do need to be done gently and patiently, not forced with resistance and force, as i learnt today reading a buddhist book to help with step I of iih

October 04, 2011, 03:18:29 PM
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The pyramid itself is the key

October 04, 2011, 07:15:20 PM
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You mean standing 4 square and upright (perfect square=elemental equilibrium) with the Spirit reigning over all your actions? lol