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Are You practicing the Steps in Initiaion into Hermetics?

Yes, very strictly.
47 (15.8%)
Yes, mixed with my other practices.
112 (37.7%)
Kinda, of and on again.
53 (17.8%)
No, it doesn't fit with me.
49 (16.5%)
No, What is IIH?
28 (9.4%)
No, don't have the time.
8 (2.7%)

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August 03, 2010, 08:34:24 PM
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I gave the website a quick look over, at the very least its got a fluffy look to it. The fact that he uses so many terms like night magic, dark power, ect. Just say to me that he gave it that name just so it'd seem cool or mysterious. IIH is more straightforward and gives more direct practices. While he does seem to have at the very least a rudimentary understanding of magic and magical philosophy his system does not seem all that effective to me. Doing rituals before training the mind is not a very effective way to go about doing things, and the mental training he does give does not seem nearly as in depth as in IIH. Just some things to think about.

August 04, 2010, 11:13:12 AM
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Haha, yeah. Honestly I'm not exactly sure of what this soft spot is. Probably because it was the first  'system' of magick I came across. It didn't keep my attention because it was 'cool' or 'I want to do this because I can scare people' or something like that.. That wasn't -isn't- the point to me. I'm a pragmatic woman at heart so it makes even less sense.
But in all likelihood I probably will attempt IIH. At the very least there's a lot of support and people I can ask things when I mess up- and I shall. I'll have to give the book a good reread however, flip through some articles. I want to know everything I can before I start, although it's like being at the base of a huge mountain and wondering incredulously to yourself "I'm going to climb that?"
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August 04, 2010, 11:37:01 AM
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Im practicing the IIH and I am at step one like many others of course. I just read Veos' commentary on the steps and it cleared things up a lot, such as why am I not able to retain emptiness of the mind. I can hold onto a single thought for 10 minutes but now i realize that I really need to work on my thought observation and get rid of those "micro-thoughts" to achieve emptiness of the mind.
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August 05, 2010, 03:00:04 PM
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I'm also practicing with Bardon's IIH. I'm actually on step 3, precisely in elemental breathing, vital force accumulations and its practical applications. Last year I thought already that I have mastered step 3 and went to step 4, practicing the translocation of the consciousness and the condensing of the elements in my body but unexpected self-doubts forced me to go back to my soul mirror and the former steps although I've made really good progress in translocation of consciousness. When I look back I have to say the months I spent for renewing my soul mirror and the following balancing was very well invested time. Occasionally I even dropped the exercises for nearly a month, just to start them again now. The good thing about doing the steps twice or thrice is that you accomplish them faster than you did the first time and most likely you will find unknown depth in the exercises which you haven't seen before.
The most important experience I've made by practicing IIH is that hastening in your development is of no use.

August 15, 2010, 05:35:41 PM
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    • The Razors Edge.....
i've been working with IIH since i started, on and off, due to other various interest but have recently jumped to it again - full throttle.
after doing some reviewing and refresher course on the material, i found that i am about done step 05 - going to step 06.

August 23, 2010, 11:50:11 PM
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I'm just now reading veos commentary in studying hermetic magic and its quite fascanating

September 06, 2010, 12:34:47 AM
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I just got the hard copy of IIH. 356 pages vs 170 on the e-book. Haven't started, and I won't finish for awhile because I think reading ahead beyond the steps that I accomplish will distract me from focusing all of my attention on the current exercise. I don't plan on reading pass the theory until I have enough understanding of it to practically preach it >.> Anybody have personal insight on the content of the e-book vs the hard copy?

September 12, 2010, 04:15:34 PM
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I really need to work on my thought observation and get rid of those "micro-thoughts" to achieve emptiness of the mind.


One of well know principles is the Law of Attraction. By thinking ˇI need to get rid ofˇ micro though what do you think actually happening? :D





October 04, 2010, 09:58:25 PM
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I really need to work on my thought observation and get rid of those "micro-thoughts" to achieve emptiness of the mind.


One of well know principles is the Law of Attraction. By thinking ˇI need to get rid ofˇ micro though what do you think actually happening? :D






I think you are getting rid of the micro-thoughts.

I'm just now reading veos commentary in studying hermetic magic and its quite fascanating

Isn't it though?

I just got the hard copy of IIH. 356 pages vs 170 on the e-book. Haven't started, and I won't finish for awhile because I think reading ahead beyond the steps that I accomplish will distract me from focusing all of my attention on the current exercise. I don't plan on reading pass the theory until I have enough understanding of it to practically preach it >.> Anybody have personal insight on the content of the e-book vs the hard copy?

I did the no reading ahead thing for a while, but when I read ahead and saw why I was doing the beginning steps, it made alot more sense. The epilogue is written as if you had just read the whole book before accomplishing it all, too, if I remember correctly.

The hard copy totally pwns the e-book, in my opinion, though I read the two or three internet versions just to get a full scope. There are 2 or 3 hardback translations too.
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October 11, 2010, 07:35:34 PM
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What are some of your opinions regarding the Golden Dawn and he Book Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons in the High Magick Arts?
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October 12, 2010, 06:05:02 AM
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I just got the hard copy of IIH. 356 pages vs 170 on the e-book. Haven't started, and I won't finish for awhile because I think reading ahead beyond the steps that I accomplish will distract me from focusing all of my attention on the current exercise. I don't plan on reading pass the theory until I have enough understanding of it to practically preach it >.> Anybody have personal insight on the content of the e-book vs the hard copy?

356 pages vs 170?  Ok, you got me interested too.
Can anyone expand on what is missing from the ebook?

I'm off to googling for the hard copy too.

October 27, 2010, 12:31:42 AM
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What are some of your opinions regarding the Golden Dawn and he Book Modern Magick: Eleven Lessons in the High Magick Arts?

Never read Modern Magick, and I've never been interested in reading it, honestly. I found what I was yearning for, and then I found a teacher. Why fix something that isn't broken?

Golden Dawn is pretty cool. I wouldn't trust anyone who said they had the entirety of it's practices published, because even then the spoken tradition of the Order would remain veiled.
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November 26, 2010, 01:01:33 AM
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Kichara, the mediafire link is broken or the file has been deleted somehow. Do you have any other source for the IIH? Or is the hardcopy more valuable than the e-book? Thanks.
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November 26, 2010, 09:27:15 PM
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The Hardcopy is without doubt more valuable than the book, but I will look into getting a new link in the next couple days.
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November 27, 2010, 04:09:28 AM
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Don't sweat it Kichara, I already got the PDF file that, luckily, I got from you from a thread somewhere here in Magick section (I forgot  :confused:).
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