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Often times there are threads created that, through the course of the discussion, put out a lot of knowledge. Threads about debating the existence of psi/magic

http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=8667.0

threads about astrology

http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=8706.0

threads about starting your journey into metaphysics... well maybe not, since they only tend to contain a few replies, most of which are links to articles.

polls like these

http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=9377.0
http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=10804.0
http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=9225.0

so, what I'm suggesting, is that perhaps somewhere on the wiki, we provide a whole list of links to newcomers to answer questions that have been discussed thoroughly before. It would go something like,

"So what does everyone think about politics here?

Sincerely,
New Guy"


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<insert link to page that has "Political Threads" as a heading, and below contains several thread links that relate to politics>

That should point you in the right direction. ^_^

sincerely,
Martial Thoughts


I suppose this is already possible with the editability of the wiki, but is there a better way to implement it? A way to keep the list of links updated?

With the stable growth of Veritas over the years, I think some kind of pre-existing thread organization will really smooth out some of the kinks. Threads on similar topics won't be as spread apart and less-noticed topics can get more spotlight. What does everyone think?

Edit: I realize those topics are all from the Main Hall, but it's not limited there. Any of the specialized boards have recurring topics that may benefit from organization (except maybe the Cafeteria and Hello/Goodbye... for somewhat obvious reasons.
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July 18, 2007, 09:52:35 PM
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A similar idea came up once a year or two ago, but in the end no one stepped forward to do it.  I think in principle it's an excellent idea to organize links to the most valuable threads, and the wiki is probably the only way to coordinate such a massive endeavor.  Our forums have certainly exceeded the size where good threads are simply stickied.  Many of them are buried only to be rediscovered when people type in the right search terms in our search bar, or when people find them on google (which is actually how many of our new members arrive, by finding old forum threads).

An organized collection of most valuable threads by topic would be an excellent resource.  My advice is to create whatever categories are suitable, and then label the threads in a brief descriptive way.  For example the threads could be entered into the wiki as:

=Discussions about evidence for the metaphysical arts=
* [http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=8667.0 Skepticism and the scientific evidence for psi]
* [http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php?topic=9311.0 The challenges of demonstrations and videos]

etc...  Once the urls are in place on the wiki, they can easily be reorganized by cutting and pasting if people think of better ways to move them around.  My advice to editors contributing to such a list is to be bold with edits.  Periodic reorganization will likely be necessary to accommodate new high-value threads or newly rediscovered threads.
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July 18, 2007, 11:29:01 PM
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I get ample time at work to surf the net and whatnot. I might enjoy working on it, I'm just not certain what would merit a "valuable" thread all the time because my knowledge in some fields here is lacking. i wouldn't mind suggestions for threads though.
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July 19, 2007, 08:36:12 AM
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I would say start it up with the things you think are most valuable, even if you're not completely confident in your choices.  Once there is an infrastructure in place it will be easier for others to make suggestions simply by adding some in to appropriate categories, and if people disagree with a choice it can be easily edited out.
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July 19, 2007, 08:36:56 AM
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Here is a very basic outline for what comes to mind in terms of organization. Question marks indicate areas where rewording or revised organization is preferable. (And you can obviously see my lack of knowledge in Magick areas.)

All suggestions/comments/criticisms welcome. Any help would be nice too ^_^

-Psionics
   -FAQs
      -Meditation
      -Psi Wheel
      -Physical Ailments?
   -Theories (How/why it works)
   -Experimentations/Developing Ideas
   -Threads linking to outside works
   -Telepathy
   -Psychokinesis
   -Precognition
   -Other common Psychic abilities?

-Body Energy Arts/Martial Arts
   -FAQs?
      -Chi Balls
      -Grounding
      -Meditation
   -Empty Force
   -Chi Kung/Qi Gong/Tai Chi?
   -Theories
   -Training Regimen
   -List of Martial Art threads
   
-Magick
   -FAQs
      -Starting Points?
      -Common Paths? (Orders/Methods?)
      -Spell Making
   -Elementals
   -Encounters/Stories??
   -Servitor/Egregore
   -Theories
   -??
   -??

-Spirituality/Philosophy
   -God/Heavenly Beings
   -Demons?
   -Thoughts on the Self
   -Outlook on others?
   -Theories?
   -Classical Philosophy

-Evidence of the Metaphysical

-Miscellaneous Debates

-Politics

-Polls/Surveys

-Christianity and Metaphysics
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July 19, 2007, 10:01:36 AM
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Good list.

But, I want you to find one that deals with Christianity and throw it in there, because I never want to see redundant debates about Christianity again. Though that's unlikely... :P
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July 19, 2007, 10:54:18 AM
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Like http://vsociety.net/wiki/Christianity_and_Metaphysics this?


I couldn't find all the debates, but those were the two biggest that came to mind. Feel free to add more links ^_^
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July 19, 2007, 11:57:03 AM
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Excellent. Just make sure you link to the page where the discussions actually start all through, because not all of them start on the first pages (which usually do not even have to do with Christianity in the first place).
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July 19, 2007, 12:14:21 PM
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Also, each page you add in this series should be added to an appropriately named category, so they can all be found in the future.  This can be accomplished by adding a category tag to the bottom of each wiki page like:

[[Category:Forum Threads]]

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July 19, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
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Also, each page you add in this series should be added to an appropriately named category, so they can all be found in the future.  This can be accomplished by adding a category tag to the bottom of each wiki page like:

[[Category:Forum Threads]]



Would you please give more examples? The way it's organized now is not into categories, but looking into it, I see how that would be rather beneficial. At the moment of this writing, the category is "Significant Forum Threads" for... Significant Forum Threads... The pages under that heading have no Category... So, what I'm asking is what other categories would they fall under? or something...>.>
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July 19, 2007, 09:12:03 PM
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Also, each page you add in this series should be added to an appropriately named category, so they can all be found in the future.  This can be accomplished by adding a category tag to the bottom of each wiki page like:

[[Category:Forum Threads]]



Would you please give more examples? The way it's organized now is not into categories, but looking into it, I see how that would be rather beneficial. At the moment of this writing, the category is "Significant Forum Threads" for... Significant Forum Threads... The pages under that heading have no Category... So, what I'm asking is what other categories would they fall under? or something...>.>
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Like what you did, but slightly more correctly.  :)  You edited this page manually, and inserted the pages as links.  Instead, if you edit the individual pages themselves, and put the "[[Category:Significant Forum Topics]]" at the bottom of each page, then the wiki will automatically add them to that category, just like it added this page to the category.

I edited a few as examples, adding them to the Significant Forum Topics category, and to other more general categories like Psionics or Religion as I spotted them.  (You can see my edits under Recent Changes.)  Note that if you go to the category, it says "There are 5 pages in this category", where previously it only had one.  Using the categories feature like that helps people to find things.  :)
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July 20, 2007, 07:46:02 AM
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ah, I understand now. Thanks kobok. One other thing, should I delete all the links I created? (I was going for a category, subcategory, sub subcategory thing so anyone searching through could start with broad topics and then narrow their search that way.)
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