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Spirituality / Re: Do you chant Mahamrityunjaya Mantra?
« Last post by Shivji on September 26, 2017, 10:48:30 PM »
Yes I chant Mahamrityunjay mantra.
 
Whenever I have problem that seem to unsolvable, I chant mantra.

And immediately, something happen that feel like miracle. I also chant om namah shivay.
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Kemetin on September 25, 2017, 07:32:10 PM »
Rayn - I'm gonna keep this short and sweet, because it's a nice spring afternoon and there are better ways to spend it than dredging through your pseudoscientific diatribe.

1) I never said anything about  "super duper duper special teachers" or "ancient secrets," you're projecting your own preconceived notions onto what I said.  All I'm saying is that if you want to train in a system which will help you develop "metaphysically," then you're by far most likely to do so successfully if you find a system with practitioners who can demonstrate success (whatever that happens to be to you - not everyone has the obsession with flashy-but-useless psychokinetics that you seem to possess), and then follow the same method under their guidance. Exactly as you would in any other field of endeavour.

2) A lot of the rest of what you're rambling on about we've already discussed to what I feel is more or less the point of conclusion in a thread from last year: http://forums.vsociety.net/index.php/topic,22957.0.html If there's anyone here reading this who cares (which I doubt) they can find my objections to your "inductive reasoning" and etc. in my posts in that thread.

As I'm fairly sure I said there, but I'm going to reiterate nobody would be happier than me to see science finally make a genuine and wholehearted effort at studying these phenomena, but until that happens (and I'm fairly convinced it will within our lifetime - although people were saying the same thing over a century ago), my attitude is that the most practical approach is to make do with using pre-existing cosmologies as working models.

3) You seem incredibly invested in a lot of things you claim to not believe in, given the amount of time, effort and emotion you're going out of your way to repeatedly pour into arguing about it on an empty website. I'd suggest you try some introspection, chill out and look for something better to do with your time. Maybe some meditation would help you relax :)

I'm bowing out. If you wanna keep jumping all over this dead horse, have fun.




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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Hellblazer on September 25, 2017, 06:32:28 PM »
I think the biggest issue is that people want that "happy thought" kind of magick. The typical law of attraction b.s. which amounts to nothing more than cognitive and/or confirmation bias. They want to wish really hard and have everything handed to them with no effort. That doesn't work. I feel down that rabbit hole, its not a place anyone need be.

The most effective system is optimism and goal setting. That work if you have the will to achieve, but if you spend your life looking for super powers then you are wasting your time.
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by delusionsofgranduer on September 25, 2017, 02:34:33 PM »
I like to lurk on occult/magic forums sometimes to see how other people's opinion on the metaphysical.  I've found these communities to be a mixed bag for the most part.  I've met lots of wise and thoughtful people on there who I've learned a lot from.  On the other hand I've also met a lot of obnoxious arrogant people as well.  A lot of long time occultists on these forums  believe that just because their belief systems are really old that it somehow makes them superior.

For example, I've met many so called amazing hermetic magicians and chaos magick adepts who are dismissive of anything that doesn't conform to their worldview.  When you try bringing up psionics or anomalous cognition to them most of them will role their eyes and dismiss it out of hand.  I'm sorry, you believe that masturbating on a some squiggles on a piece of paper is going to change the universe but can't suspend belief to consider psychic abilities? 

What's so bothersome though is that there is such an utter contempt for trying to investigate these things scientifically.  Apparently all magic is just ineffable subjective experience that cannot be analyzed using logic or reasoning.  I think transcendental subjective experiences are wonderful and they have their place in creating a logical framework for this phenomena, but that doesn't mean we have to rule out scientific analysis.  Using science doesn't mean accepting materialist reductionism or giving up on your spirituality; its just a tool for us to discover how metaphysical stuff works.

Sometimes I think it sucks knowing that we will probably never have a comprehensive understanding in our lifetimes.  Who knows what scientists in a 1000 years will find out about how souls, metaphysical abilities, and psi really work. 
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Hellblazer on September 25, 2017, 08:55:09 AM »
Rayn I didn't get along with you in the past, but I find myself agreeing with you more and more.
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Hellblazer on September 25, 2017, 06:43:56 AM »
I think the one thing that magick and religion have is common is, don't question. Once you start you won't like the answers you find. If you really want to create a change in your life, do something that changes it. You can wish in one hand and crap in the other, which'll fill up first?
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Oxide on September 25, 2017, 03:47:25 AM »
This is what I am speaking of Akenu. You people are crazy, and I feel like I can say that seeing as you just tried to stalk me and dropped an alias I use online on my social media pages in the forum that you thought was personal information.....

...... What you did is called surveillance; it is part of stalking. The purpose behind stalking is essentially to exert an influence on people where you dropped what you thought was personal information as a means to intimidate me, which is not going to work.........

This is worrying, Ryan. I am concerned. How is it possible that someone can stalk you on this forum? Could someone stalk me, by me being on this forum, or any forum for that matter? How can I protect myself from this?
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Oxide on September 25, 2017, 03:32:08 AM »
I had similar frustration when I first started studying this stuff, but eventually  I decided to cut the bullshit and go to the source, and I only wish I'd done so sooner. I found teachers who had achieved the things I want to achieve, and now I study under them, just as you would with any other human endeavour. It requires a lot more initial investment than downloading a few dozen PDF's and trying to wing it by yourself, but there's a reason these systems of training have always thrived in situations where they are passed down through a direct lineage of teacher > student...........

May I ask what system(s) you are following or practising, please?
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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Kemetin on September 25, 2017, 01:57:42 AM »
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Hence why I did not respond to Kemetin's post.

Except you did... twice now...  :)

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I don't believe in Qigong, Hermetics, Vedic whatever, or anything like that, and your argument has no numbers attached to it, so there is no reason for me to think it even pragmatically valid.

Believe or disbelieve whatever you want, it's your life, but I feel obliged to point out that nothing you've said so far has had numbers attached to it either. Personally, belief isn't a huge factor for me - I care first and foremost about personal experience of practical results.

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So basically every system is bullshit. Right? Because that's what I'm seeing so far.

I'm still curious - exactly what you were practising for all those years, and why on earth did you keep practising it for so long if you weren't getting notable results?

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Main Hall / Re: My oh my we are a sad little place
« Last post by Hellblazer on September 24, 2017, 05:56:14 PM »
The only thing that I know is legit, is that if your change your subconscious beliefs you change. That mindset is everything and stuff "magically" popping out of nowhere does not exist. That all spirits and entities are just psychology props. The practice of magick being nothing more than psychological theatrics.
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