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Other / Mind parasites - Archons Theory
« Last post by deosth on May 02, 2018, 08:59:15 AM »
I want to talk about something i first read in a passage from Castaneda about beings that use human minds to feed of negative energy outbursts. I also found these beings also named Archons in other sources. Then i met a professor with the theory that all painfull experiences from birth are saved inside the baby subconscious and are the root of all negative emotions. I think this theory is close to another called pain-body.
I think those parasites exist and here is how they work:
  • They target high energy personalities, advanced spiritual/mental humans, light workers or bright persons.
  • If they can break you face on they do it on your weak points.
  • If they can't they use war by attrition by
  • Destroying persons you love, using their weak point and slowly break you by ruination
  • Synchronicity is just them playing their cards right at the moment they have to
  • They will use a strong soul to drag down an even stronger unbreakable soul
  • If you try to resist (by meditation, energy work, happy thoughs) they will use the environment to break you

Never give up
Fuck the bastards
Spirituality / Re: New to Hellenism
« Last post by الظلام on May 01, 2018, 11:12:03 PM »
Ah you noticed his alter ago, Thoth, was wondering if you would catch that. Thoth is often associated as a god of knowledge, both divine and secular, which is why I said Hermes is quite relevant to your pursuit of magic.
Personally, out of the Egyptian pantheon, I like Set and Apophis.
And out of the Greek pantheon, I resonate with Erebus.
Of course these are just passing admirations - I do not practice any sort of relationship with any deities except the one called Allah, God, or whatever you wish to call it.

Awww my condolences to you for your situation. Do you not have a nightstand or drawer near your bed (you have a bed right? )? That would be great.
If nothing else, then just use your bed. All your activities regarding this matter should be done on your bed. Even if you must just keep everything underneath it when not in use.
One reason that I insist on establishing a center for this practice, isn't necessarily because it is absolutely necessary, but because it is beneficial in many ways.
1. Places of worship accumulate power. The rooms used for worship in churches are loaded with vital power, for example, and those who pray in these areas will often see better results by the sheer presence of such power, regardless of whether the deity actually does anything. Does that make sense?
So by confining your worship to a single space, you allow that power to accumulate, instead of being thrown around everywhere.

2. Practicing at an altar helps get you into a spiritual mindset.
It works like a subconscious trigger - when you approach the altar, your mind knows that it's going to be performing spiritual activities, so it reacts accordingly. Kind of like how people get nervous when they step into a doctors office, you are just taking advantage of how the environment affects you.

3. I'm pretty sure that having an altar helps spread the influence of the god it is dedicated to, serving as a conduit for their power, and intensifying their presence. This is partly why people often have spiritual experiences in places of religious practice.

This isn't necessarily about "doing it the right way", or not pissing off Hermes, or some kind of spirit-etiquette.
Just a matter of practicality.

So whether its a tree in the middle of the woods, an altar in someone's home, or simply someone's bed, what matters is the practices done in said area.
Things like statues, symbols, etc. are auxiliary ways of establishing the place for whatever god, and further reinforcing their influence in said area - Like the same way people draw the symbols of the elements on their wands, or use the symbols of demons to summon them. It's all about using these symbols to attract the power or presence of whatever the symbol represents. I think it is often referred to today as "sympathetic magic".
But it isn't -absolutely- necessary, worship on its own is quite effective in attracting the influence of whatever god.
I've actually heard of some interesting things regarding keeping things related to spirits near their bed.
I know Demonolators sometimes keep amulets or sigils of their chosen demon underneath their pillows, and they would be visited by said demon in their dreams. At least, that's what I've heard :P

do you think Hermes would mind if the entire area isn't dedicated to him?

Like I've pointed out, it is mostly about the practices being done in the area, rather than the literal area itself. I'd just refrain from putting it somewhere outright disrespectful or doing anything unsavory in whatever area it is(like you certainly wouldn't want to put in altar on a toilet :P ).

Now, it takes time to build relationships with deities, so in the beginning, he is unlikely to know that you even exist  :biggrin:
However, deities eventually take notice of those who show serious devotion. Be patient, be sincere.
But like I said before, one doesn't necessarily have to have direct contact or literal communication with a spirit to benefit from these kinds of practices. One important aspect of these kind of practices is harmonizing and connecting with the spirit in a passive way. Why do you think Priests and Priestesses had any sort of power? Because their particular god descended from the heavens, and gave them that power literally? Because said god follows them around like a puppy and does as they command?
Not usually.
They are just connected enough with whatever spirit to call upon it's power on their own.
Another important factor I'd also like to point out, is that these practices exercise and develop your own spirit, which in turn increases your own spiritual authority, which is another reason why such priests and priestesses acquire power.

Also, that's where I initially messed up on my journey, I kept asking for his help (ex. wealth) and not really doing much in return.

One thing to note about spirits like Hermes/Thoth, is that they are quite "celestial" in nature. Meaning, like Angels, they are more likely to support you in ways that encourage true spiritual development. They will often ignore requests involving carnal desires, and instead use such things as a lesson for you.
Demons are the ones who are more likely to support such carnal desires.
Poverty is humbling, and character-building, so it is unlikely you will get any good-intentioned spirit to relieve you of it.
In the long run, it will help your spiritual growth.
Trust me, I have been both poor and homeless :P

I'll look into Hermetics, how should I take it as far as the Judeo-Christian approach, simply universally as you said?

Bardon does a good job of staying relatively neutral in his books, it's just very celestial-oriented(a lot of preaching about morality). To be honest, I think it was more of a problem for me than it will be for you. His teaching of magic is very solid though, and I would vouch for 100% of everything he teaches within that book.
The judeo-christian bias will be more apparent if you were to look around here on the internet, or if you were to study things from the Golden Dawn or whatever. Many hermeticists also practice the judeo-christian religions, so it is no coincedence.

Don't get the wrong idea, hermetic magic is perfectly compatible with your hellenism, it's just not usually taught or emphasized that way, and if you stick to Bardon's material, you will avoid the bias for the most part. But if you ever run into things that you need help understanding or reconciling, let me know.

What do you specialize in, if you don't mind my asking?

Darkness, as my username suggests. Not just the literal darkness, but the spiritual force itself, which in turn, means the negative("infernal") polarity of the universe. You will better understand what I mean if you read Bardon's book. When you read it, it will be referred to as the Negative or Passive polarity in some sections, and in the "Light" section of the Theory chapter, it will be referred to as Darkness.
Spirituality / Re: New to Hellenism
« Last post by Toomanyorifices on May 01, 2018, 08:13:14 PM »
As far as other gods, probably Hecate (interest in magic) and Athena (interest in greater knowledge).
I've also always been fond of Hermes' other aspects such as Thoth and Anubis.
Of course, I know that he can't forge the connections himself, but I would like to get to know all the Greek gods eventually.

The altar... Not to say too much about my personal life, but I'm a broke college kid living with his mom (who is very particular about her house) in a 1BR.
The only possible desk area I would have would be a stand that's in front of the couch that she insists nothing of mine is on.
Maybe I could persuade her to have a small area for an altar, do you think Hermes would mind if the entire area isn't dedicated to him?

I'll do my research on libations, votive offerings, prayers, and invocations.
Also, that's where I initially messed up on my journey, I kept asking for his help (ex. wealth) and not really doing much in return.
I'm somewhat more understanding of the gods and realize that I actually need to dedicate my time to him/them.

I'll look into Hermetics, how should I take it as far as the Judeo-Christian approach, simply universally as you said?

What do you specialize in, if you don't mind my asking?
Spirituality / Re: New to Hellenism
« Last post by الظلام on May 01, 2018, 01:11:12 PM »
You mention establishing relationships with other gods - do you have a another god in particular that you're interested in?
Having him literally establish relationships with other gods would likely require you summoning him first, and I'd also point out that though he is a messenger, he cannot force other gods to have a relationship with you. The best thing to do for that is to devote yourself to that god the same way you did with Hermes.
But still, he can indeed help you in those matters.

About the altar - it doesn't necessarily have to be a literal altar. Do you have a desk or something which you can keep things related to him in?
And you don't necessarily have to go all-out with decorations or anything.
Do you think you could get away with just a small statue? And perhaps a necklace? With the necklace you would keep it at the "inconspicuous" altar, so that it "soaks" in the presence of Hermes since the altar serves as a physical conduit for him and his influence, and also so that it soaks in the power of worship(worship generates power on its own, which is one reason why gods appreciate it). Then you would take it with you whenever you go places, as a way of taking him and his influence with you.

I know that libations, votive offerings, and animal sacrifices were historical methods of worship used for the Greek gods, and though I know you probably won't wish to perform animal sacrifices, you should read about the other two.
Prayer would be good too. Though don't just use prayer as a way of constantly asking for favors. These aren't wish granting Genies :P
Call upon his guidance and influence instead.
I'd recommend trying to find information on how they use to pray to the Greek gods too.

Now since you seem to want to be quite involved with the gods, magic indeed will be important to you. And Hermes is a god that is actually quite relevant in that matter, he certainly can guide and support your endeavor into magic.
Learning about invocations and evocations will be relevant to your pursuit of the gods, particularly invocation, since evocation requires quite weighty rituals, and it seems that you aren't in an environment which would support you trying to perform evocation rituals. Evocation also requires some spiritual authority and magical skills which you do not have yet.
You may be able to find invocations for the Greek gods online from modern Hellenists. Invocation is similar to prayer, if you are not familiar with it.

Now you seem to want to establish communication with the gods, but unfortunately that is an area I'm not very familiar with. The only way I know of to establish literal communication with a god, is through evocation.
However, you may wish to look into Divination, particularly kinds that are used to communicate with spirits, like the pendulum I think. I know nothing about these things though, so I can't give you anymore information about it for the moment

Since it seems you are interested about magic for its own as well, I would recommend downloading or buying Initiation into Hermetics by Franz Bardon. If you look around on this site, you will see this book recommended often, and not without reason.
You should also look around the articles on this website.
However, Bardon's book and hermetic magic as it's often taught has a quite judeo-christian bias, despite Hermetics being a system that is supposed to be "universal", and I'm just giving you a heads up about that. If you need help processing Bardon's book, or anything else, you can ask me.

Spirituality / Re: New to Hellenism
« Last post by Toomanyorifices on May 01, 2018, 05:17:38 AM »
I'd like to eventually devote myself to Hermes because he is the messenger god, meaning that he'll be able to help me establish a relationship with the other gods as well.
He's also the god of good fortune and travelers, so it would be nice to have fortunes befall me as well as have someone watch over me.

As far as my overall goals, well, I picked a pantheon and god that I feel most inclined to, I know that there are powerful entities out there.
I feel like it's a good start to get to know Hermes and then eventually be able to communicate with others as well.
I'm hoping that the god(s) will be able to help me on my path and better understand the universe around me.

So the problem now is that I can't have an altar considering that I live with my mom and she doesn't condone these sort of things.
I suppose I can still continue to read up on him and such.

I've always been interested in magic as well, though have never known where to start.
Mentioning to find a book solely on Hermes is a good idea though.
Spirituality / Re: New to Hellenism
« Last post by الظلام on April 30, 2018, 10:16:25 PM »
Hello there.

Too be honest, my experience with this kind of thing is limited, I've always been very self centered and too conceited to imagine ever devoting myself to a god.

However - that is exactly what you need to do if you wish to form a connection to Hermes.
One tool that will be important here which you are familiar with, is meditation.
Another thing which I believe should be important to you, is an altar.
Create an altar dedicated to him,  filled with things that represent him - symbols, art/visual depictions etc.
Here, you may worship him, meditate on him, study about him. Devotion is a way of getting your spirit to "hone in" on what you seek.
For me, instead of a god, my target was the Darkness, but the means to achieve my goals were essentially the same, now that I think about it.
I meditated on it, "worshiped" it indirectly through my infatuation, engaged in dark activities that brought me closer to it - and you should do the same kind of thing for Hermes. Worship him, meditate on his characters and principles, study him, and take in principles of his that you wish to see in yourself.

One thing you should understand, is that these gods aren't just these beings that people worship. On the Mental Sphere, they are a collection of principles, ideas, etc., and on the celestial sphere, they are a collection of intelligent energies. Your spirit too exists on those spheres, and you can form a connection - or "harmonize" with him on those levels.
So, even if you aren't directly speaking with him face to face, or he isn't literally following you around like a puppy, that doesn't mean you can't connect with him, or receive his influence.
This kind of thing is exactly what many don't understand, and why many give up quickly on this sort of thing. They worship some god for awhile, and then get mad when he doesn't pop up and start granting their wishes like a genie.

Since you said you are fairly new to esoteric practices, I think what I have mentioned is a good place to start.

However I would also recommend training in magic, so that you can better understand what you are doing, and so you can eventually summon him and have a more direct relationship.
And I'd also recommend trying to see if you can find information on historical methods of worship of the Greek gods, especially if you can find god-specific practices for Hermes. Not necessarily because that is the "only right way" to worship, but just because it would be nice for you to know you are using a method that once was actually used to worship him. It will also give you a concrete method for you to use.

I'm curious though, what are your goals with this?
Spirituality / New to Hellenism
« Last post by Toomanyorifices on April 30, 2018, 07:30:26 PM »
Hello all,

I'm fairly new to all things occult. I have been regularly meditating and have always had a genuine interest in the Greek gods, particularly Hermes. I've read up on the gods and briefly on the heroic stories from that time, however, I'm just not sure where to start. I want to start a bond with Hermes, but I'm not sure what to do. I believe that I've seen some signs from him such as his staff, and the number 4 (which i believe is linked to him), though I still don't know what I should do to establish contact.

Also as far as any rituals go, I'm completely oblivious to as well.

Any and all help will be appreciated,

Thanks  :biggrin:
Magick / Re: Who is Practicing the IIH?
« Last post by الظلام on April 29, 2018, 02:54:57 PM »
If you are reading the IIH, you may also wish to read Bardon's Practice of Magical Evocation. Though it isn't something you should practice until you are well advanced in the IIH, there is a lot information in there that you may find interesting.
There is also his Questions and Answers book, which is extremely relevant if you are practicing the IIH.

Beyond Bardon though, Agrippa's Three Books of Occult Philosophy I think could be relevant to you.

Many of the magic articles on this website are also very relevant to hermetics, unless you have already read them.
Magick / Re: Who is Practicing the IIH?
« Last post by Gaia on April 29, 2018, 12:56:37 PM »
Anyone knows some goods books to read while praticing that are related to hermeticism? I know about kyballion
My first question is, why are you feeling surges of negative energies in the first place?
I may be wrong, but that doesn't seem normal. I don't see why that should be happening to you, unless you are being attacked, or perhaps your residence is particularly afflicted with negative energies. I understand that to some degree that people accumulate remnant negative energies from daily life, but it's negligible from what I understand, usually not enough to cause -serious- problems.
But you mention it comes from within, which adds an interesting twist to this question. Are you sure you aren't just becoming aware of your own negative energies during meditation? Are you sure it's not just the normal activity of your own spirit?
There are spirits of all kinds, but they all can be examined in terms of polarity: those that are negative are often called demons, those that are positive are often called angels, but humans, by majority, are mixed, or in-between beings. Many esoteric practitioners like to assert that humans are naturally beings of light and goodness - which is simply not true.
So I would advise that you first make sure you are not just becoming aware of your own spiritual activity, rather than you experiencing surges of unwarranted or harmful negative energy.

Now if that's something that you don't like or want, then of course you may change that. However, if there is some natural darkness to your spirit, then simply trying to expel it through meditation will not be enough, because it will always return. In order to get rid of it, you need to change the structure of your spirit, and that means examining your character and changing it.
You mentioned having fights/arguing with others, and that is a good place to start :P
Being combative/argumentative is a negative trait, so unless you desire some negativity in your spirit(which is ok for some people), than you will need to adjust your character. And if you seek to completely purge yourself of negativity, than you will need to examine your character in it's entirety, and make changes accordingly.
But again, you only need to do this if you do not wish to have any dark/negative activity in your spiritual composition. However even if you don't mind some negative composition, I would suggest practicing self control and exercising mastery over any negative traits you have, to put yourself in control over your emotions and character, rather than -you- being controlled by -them-. Make sense? :P

BUT - if you think these surges of negative energy do not belong to your natural composition and are problematic, than I will give you some other advice.

Here, I will describe a simple method of drawing out negative energies that is quite common amongst western magicians, and solves your concern of the negative energy lingering around and causing other problems.
The "Water" element is a naturally magnetic force that is very useful in drawing things out. And this is why water is often used in cleansing and purifying rituals(like baptism for example).
But for you, you only need a sink with which to wash your hands.
Now, all you do is simply wash your hands, but while doing so, concentrate intensely and imagine that the water is not only cleansing your hands, but drawing the negative energies from your body as well. Imagine that all this negative energy is being drawn with the water and runs off with it.
Now, this -MUST-  be done with cold water. Water loses its attractive power when it is warm.

With this method, the negative energy goes away with the water, so you need not fear it lingering around causing trouble.
*if you do not feel like a hand wash is enough, you may also perform this method with a shower or bath

The same thing happens when out of nowhere I feel a "dark omen", or a dark odic force, like "there is something wrong". Later, something bad always happens (it's random. It can be a car problem, something in my house breaks, I have a fight with someone, etc).

Now if this is true, you may simply be experiencing some intuition/enhanced perception. If you are new to spiritual practices, than you may be experiencing some natural abilities beginning to show themselves - Intuition and expanded perception being a very common ability that shows up.
Of course, also make sure that it isn't just your mind connecting unrelated events.
Ask yourself, how often are you correct about these feelings? Are you ever wrong? If so how often?
If you are often more wrong then you are right, than perhaps its just in your head. However, if you are right far more than wrong, perhaps you are experiencing some intuition.

I think we have a hard time dealing with the chaotic nature of the universe. But, is the universe really chaotic, or is everything causality?

I, and many other magicians, tend to hold a view that the universe, with all its components(light/dark, chaos/order, etc), is perfect. Everything that exists, does so for a reason, nothing is truly wrong or right, nothing exists mistakenly.
Is the universe truly chaotic? That depends what you mean.
The universe, with all its attributes and mechanisms, is a rather perfect system. Chaos, negativity and Darkness, are just as important as Light and positivity. Neither is better than the other, neither is more "correct".

I would say that the universe is balanced for the most part, or perhaps "harmoniously chaotic". Yes, the universe is chaotic in many ways, but that is the way it is supposed to be. But is it not also harmonious and peaceful in many other ways?

But this really depends on what you consider chaos. Chaos, as a principle, belongs to the negative "Earth" Element. It is simply the breakdown of order, the disruption of harmony.  But most people don't mean this when they talk about the "chaos of the universe". So what are you imagining when you say the universe is chaotic? What do you mean when you refer to it?

(I tend to be a bit skeptic, I'm sorry).

That's nothing to be sorry about.
I would even encourage some healthy skepticism. Just make sure it is healthy and reasonable, and not naive and dogmatic :P

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