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Magick / Re: Exorcism
« Last post by الظلام on Today at 12:20:34 AM »
Unless you are somewhat already trained in some system of magic, I do not think there is some "exorcism recipe " that someone could throw together for you to use that could work. I could be wrong though, exorcism isn't a particular interest of mine.

If you sincerely believe you have a need for an exorcist, then you should ask a nearby diocese of the Catholic Church, if you have one.
In many places(Ireland for example) each diocese is required to have at least one exorcist trained.
Magick / Re: Exorcism
« Last post by Admn52 on Yesterday at 11:58:43 PM »
Main Hall / Re: Donations needed to pay for Veritas hosting!
« Last post by الظلام on March 17, 2018, 02:06:50 PM »
Our every-two-year hosting bill has come around again for this month.  Thanks to the contributions of several members signing up for referral accounts over the past two years, and a generous donation from Koujiryuu we are very close to the amount of the bill.

I'd just like to take this moment to remind everyone that the following donation link is still active, and that everything donated is applied directly to the hosting bill that keeps this community online and running:

Any amounts donated in excess of the amount needed right now are automatically applied to the next hosting bill, and thus every donation purchases further longevity for this site.  Thanks again to everyone who has contributed so far, and thanks to anyone who clicks the link and donates more.

Is this still the correct donation link?
And how is the bill situation currently?
Hello and Goodbye / Re: Hi from NY
« Last post by الظلام on March 17, 2018, 01:12:08 PM »
The first step I feel anyone should take to take control of their life, whether they are occultists, magicians, etc. or not, is to meditate. There is a reason meditation is very important in essentially all forms of magic, spiritualities, mystical paths, etc.

I know it sounds very cliche, but I'm not telling you to meditate out of some religious, new age, fluffy, or other mystical perspective - I'm simply telling you out of a stance of practicality.

People lead lives as slaves to their emotions - dominated by them, hurt by them, blinded by them, and so on.

Meditation is a way of pulling yourself out of the battleground of your mind, so you may properly reason, solve your problems, have an objective perspective, and simply have control over your life and emotions, instead of the other way around.

If you are truly experiencing some form of extrasensory perception, than all the more important you develop through meditation and get a good reign on your mind.
These "gifts" can easily drive people mad. Indeed, some so called "schizophrenics" and other types of patients locked away in mental wards are actually just people losing it due to these "gifts".

However, don't let me scare you, as your reaction to your new experience seems quite healthy, many others would not fare so well :P
Magick / Re: Question about IIH`s thoughtless meditation.
« Last post by الظلام on March 17, 2018, 10:16:37 AM »
Rawiri is correct.
However, if there is still some confusion, here is a simplification of the thought control exercises:

"Thought control" : this is about learning to gather your focus, and learning to not allow your thoughts to distract your focus.
In practice, You observe your thoughts, but do not engage them or allow them to break your focus. You watch your thoughts objectively, but let them slip away.

"Thought discipline": this exercise helps further separate you from your thoughts, by giving you deeper control and increasing your power of concentration.
In practice, you take a single thought/image/idea, and focus on it entirely. Do not waver from that thought.

"Thought mastery": this is the final step in separating you from your thoughts. With this exercise, you essentially learn to separate your consciousness or "you", from the thoughts of your intellect.
In practice, you passively "focus" by observing the stillness of your mind. You should have no thoughts whatsoever. If a thought comes, then dismiss it.

It's about learning to be in a thoughtless state. You do not necessarily focus on anything, except the nothingness of your mind. That's why it's often called "Void meditation" because "Void" = nothingness.

Though many of the answer here were great already, I hope this gives a clear picture so you are not confused.
There are a few minor reasons I can think of off the top of my head.
1. Projecting from the body may "taint" the fluids you are projecting into the talisman.
2. If you are working with negative or destructive fluids, you may wish not to have them run through you.
3. You may not wish to load your own body with fluids and deal with the possible consequences. When you load directly from the universe, you don't have to deal with purging any leftover energy in your body, or upsetting the balance or equipoise of your own spirit/astral body.

Regardless, Bardon likes to be thorough and show his students the options they have. No harm in having options right?

I'm not quite sure what you mean by creating fluids directly with the imagination, because either way, you are technically always drawing from the universe. You cannot "create" new fluid, only intensify the fluid in whatever your target is.

From my understanding, when magicians usually work with these fluids, like say the elemental accumulations that you may have read about in the IIH, you are not quite "literally" creating energy or taking it from the universe, but rather "intensifying" the force/principle.
I remember someone asking Prophecy(I think) "why don't these energies run out due to their usage by magicians?", and his answer was along the same lines of what I have just told you.

Say I was accumulating Apas, the water element.
I would of course imagine myself breathing it in, feeling myself getting colder with each breath, then the element would - due to the sympathetic connection between my imagination and the fluid in question- intensify its presence within my body with each breath.
Did I just create energy? Did I just steal energy from the universe?
No, I only intensified the principle/force of the fluid.
The only way for a magician to actually deal with the fluids in a literal or "physical" way, is to work within the celestial sphere, which I hear is very difficult and impractical.

Though I'm not quite big on the term "biokinesis", the act of manipulating the body in such subtle ways as you described are actually quite low on the totem pole of what's possible, honestly.
Recently I've been using a particular hermetic method to keep my face pretty and scar free.
But I haven't undertaken any serious or ambitious tasks regarding body modification. Still, I know that virtually anything is possible if you have the means and methods(though "possible" is not the same as probable).
From the IIH:

"Loading a talisman for another person with a
volt is done in the same manner, but the fluids are not drawn through the body but directly
from the universe."

What is the reason for this? Why not project the fluids through your own body? And why not draw directly from the universe when creating a talisman for oneself?

More importantly, what about creating a fluid directly by way of the imagination? Can that be used for others?
Hello and Goodbye / Hi from NY
« Last post by Julioramo on March 11, 2018, 11:33:05 PM »
Hi. My name is Julio. I joined this forum for a number of reasons and I really can't get by without addressing them.

I've told my friend's; They're okay with it. I've told my parents and they think I need a psychologist.

I used to suffer from social anxiety disorder and I became very hypersensitive to people's energies. I used to think people would be able to read my mind, eventually I realized they couldn't. Hehe.. but with some therapeutic help and learning some acting techniques I became a better person.

Now I'm going though something even more peculiar though: I can see these energetic wavelengths and they come in different colors, like red, blue, pink. Some come in different textures. When my father and sister were arguing with me for example,  their energy was like a blob of gray with white noise. Like a bubble I couldn't pop, but if it did there would be a great mess.

I'm not sure what to call this. I work at a gym too and I feel energies all the time. Which is good. But I feel like I might lose my sh** if I don't control it the right way. It also gets in the way of my daily life and interactions and I grow afraid sometimes. Please help.

I've had some kinetic experiences, but to me it is all just Chi or Energy flow.

The thing with any sort of Kinetic "ability" people are generally using a scientific belief to achieve what it is they want, this is because they were taught to believe certain things about energy or matter, and because they were taught this and think this, it becomes this for them and those around them.

This is why the above quote said it could be dangerous to change internal body functions of your body, especially if your concentrating on what you already know about the body, you might focus on changing something that could have an effect on something else...

However take what I said with a grain of salt because as I also stated above, what you are taught to believe becomes your reality, if you think something bad is going to happen it will be way more likely to happen simply because you thought it.

My best moments of using or practicing Tai Chi or any sort of "Energy" or "Ether" "coupling" if you will came about when I was focused, relaxed and truly believed in what I was doing beyond what I had been taught or remembered from the past and also had no ill intent toward anyone or anything.

The names "Telekinesis" "Telepathy" and all of those fancy fantastic scientific words are the words scientists gave to things they couldn't understand because they could not see past measuring something to show someone else to prove some theory or hypothesis.

The very problem with the scientific method is every single step after you form your hypothesis, because every part after that is there so you can prove it to someone else and show it to someone else and serves no purpose other than trying to influence the chi of another person.

TL:DR We have all been brainwashed by others both purposefully and non purposefully. Even just stating that could be considered a form of Chi manipulation simply claiming something like that, but its true. We sit in classrooms where one person tells us everything that is accepted when it was only ever accepted because more than one person agreed upon something that came from another persons Chi...

So when you read, are you getting smarter, or are you getting dumber? Or is there really no such thing as either, just Assimilation and non Assimilation.

Its a very interesting subject and it is also why Psychologists and Psychiatrists scare the shit out of me as well as behavior specialists. Sure some of them have good intentions, others are just there to learn how to manipulate people even if they don't realize they are doing it.

Side note, Meditation is the key to overcoming any obstacle because it involves freeing your mind from its current psychological understanding of the world. This is why it is used in many therapy sessions and becoming more and more popular in the psychiatric community. Once a person truly meditates the way they want you to ("clear your mind or thought stopping practices involving blanking out your mind") your left with a blank canvas which they can then instruct...

Again take what I say with a grain of salt, there are good people and there are bad people. Yin and Yang, Good usages for Chi and Bad but generally Good Chi is stronger and will work more often than not because most people are drawn to feeling good and being in a good mood, most people in a bad mood don't want to be that way even if they don't know it. You might want to destroy the entire world but deep down there is always a reason for you to want to save a part of it no matter how small it might be.
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