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Magick / Hemisphere Differences
« on: January 28, 2010, 06:03:18 AM »
While researching for something I've been writing, I came across the idea that in the Southern Hemisphere the elemental attributes of the cardinal directions should be reversed, I already knew about people practicing pagan holidays switching the dates of Beltane and Samhain down here, since the seasons they link with are reversed.

I can understand the holidays being switched because of the seasons being reversed, but what is the reasoning behind reversing the elemental attributes of the cardinal directions?

Also is anybody aware of other attributes which are commonly altered between hemispheres?

Magick / Re: Beggining in Astrology - The Hermetic Tarot Cards
« on: January 25, 2010, 06:07:54 PM »
Are you sure? Doesn't he speaks about alemental-key ? (fire-air-water-earth).
I don't know about astrology anything, so thats why i'm asking.
Can you tell me about this similarities ? For example fire element is analogous to concrete planet or zodiac sign like Mars, or Lion ?
As i know, in astrology planet signs has their own cycles etc. but i don't see it in elemental-key.
Thanks for any advice.

Well it could be the Elemental key, or the Tarot it depends. His books as a whole follow the Tarot key, but in this case yes you will find that there is a equivalent between the Elements and Astrological signs as well. If you're interested in finding correspondences between different systems you should research it.

Hello and Goodbye / Re: I'm leaving this forum
« on: January 25, 2010, 05:58:50 PM »
*suggests this thread gets moved to Hello and Goodbye*

Magick / Re: Beggining in Astrology - The Hermetic Tarot Cards
« on: January 24, 2010, 03:25:45 AM »
I remember that in IIH is interesting sentence about astrology, that i don't fully understand.
FB says that:
"I have  chosen  a  different  key,  which,  although  being  analogous  to  the
astrological key, has, as a matter of fact, nothing to do with it."
Does anyone has any thoughts on this ?

As I understand it

He means that the framework of reference he is using (In this case the Tarot) is completely separate and unrelated to Astrology but at the same time has very strong similarities to it.

Magick / Re: Beggining in Astrology - The Hermetic Tarot Cards
« on: January 23, 2010, 04:11:46 AM »
In all honesty I'm not entirely sure what the mechanics are that make the tarot work for divination purposes. The Tarot isn't my specialty at all, but...

Many people have very different ideas, some believe you're channeling spirits which affect the outcome of which cards are brought to the table and what your interpretation of them is,

Some (like me) think that the cards simply act as a framework for your own intuition and psychic ability. Your choosing of the cards while seemingly random is an act of your subconscious, it knows which cards are which through your psychic faculties, the purpose of shuffling and keeping the cards face down until they need be revealed is to stop your conscious mind interfering with the work of the subconscious which has easier access to your psychic and intuitive faculties.

When the cards (seemingly random but specifically selected by your subconscious) are revealed they form a frame work for your conscious mind to interpret with assistance from your subconscious.

Of course that's just my view on the matter, I don't think anybody really "knows" for certain.

As for a deck, I cant recommend any not being a frequent user of Tarot cards.

Magick / Re: Beggining in Astrology - The Hermetic Tarot Cards
« on: January 16, 2010, 05:40:04 PM »
According to one of the reviews for that deck on amazon which is supplemented with pictures; that particular reprinting of the deck the is of terrible quality, the card's art isn't crisp showing signs of pixelation and they have been cut irregularly.

Perhaps you're better off finding an earlier printing of them on ebay.

As for the books I cant offer anything on their validity having not read them, or read many books on Astrology for that matter.

I'm not sure what your level of experience is, but if you're just starting on a path looking into Hermetics, the books I can recommend that helped me are

Initiation Into Hermetics by Franz Bardon
It's very bare bones stuff giving you just what you really need. Its a very practical book with a well structured training system set out with very clear progression, teaching the very fundamental and absolutely vital abilities required for magick, the theoretical section was a bit small and less detailed than I preferred but Bardon doesn't hide the jewels of truth behind flowery poetic language, he makes it as easy to understand as he had the ability to.

The Tree of Life by Israel Regardie
This is kind of the opposite of Initiation Into Hermetics, you'll find next to no practical instruction here but a large amount of theoretical information covering many (but by no means all) of the aspects which make up hermetic magic, the information is detailed enough to give you a basic understanding. It covers some of the history of magical development and the contributions of notable occultists, however this frequently in the case of Regardie's contemporaries devolves into his own personal criticisms and personal issues with them. You wont find Regadie as even handed as Bardon but its still worth reading.

These two are absolutely not the only books you should read or even the best in some ways, but I found that Bardon gave me the practical instruction I needed and Regardie sated my thirst for theory and more detailed information. Both are good for starting out because neither intentionally obscure the information they are providing any more than is necessary.

Psionics / Re: Can haz elementalism and hrbrid psi
« on: January 16, 2010, 06:23:16 AM »
Not normally a poster in the psi section but I thought I'd give my two cents

You seem quite determined to separate the idea of elemental energy from associations with magick, as though the energy of psionics and the energies of magick were two different things.

When it comes down to it having practiced psionics at one point and now magick, I can say that I've never seen any reason to believe the fundamental energy is any different.

In psionics the energy is what in magick would be referred to as the Akasha, it has the potential to manifest any property desirable, its a universal energy.

However some people chose to categorize and break up the energy into catagories to assist in focusing, for instance the Yin and Yang are simply splitting up the universally applicable energy (Psi/Akasha) into two polarities which are analogous to Fire and Water elementally speaking.

This is done to aid in focusing,

For example I wish to increase my body temperature, I focus on the element of Fire which in my mind already has the strong association of heat, and it carries no possibly contradictory ideas such as darkness or cold, so the property I want comes into focus much more easily than if I was fishing it out of an infinitely large number of possible properties which comes with an all encompassing energy such as if I was focusing on the Akasha or Psionic energy for example.

How people chose to split up the energy is very up to them, for some systems a simple duo of polarities such as the Yin and Yang work just fine, some systems prefer it split into still finer distinctions such as the five element system of Akasha, Fire, Water, Air and Earth, or the Chinese five element system of Fire, Water, Wood, Earth and Metal, the Qabalah splits the universal energy into still many more distinct categories.

When it comes down to it, its up to you how you want to categorize the Universal Energy whether you want to call it Psi or Akasha its the same thing. But from my own experience splitting the universal energy into categories helps immensely with focus on your particular goal in manipulating the energy, its simply a matter of what kind of categories work for you, do you want to use an existing model or construct your own.

Magick / Re: Magic and Bookshops, or the lack thereof
« on: January 16, 2010, 05:53:47 AM »
At the same time, though, all this euphemistic mumbo jumbo is simply bullshit. I wrote the original WikiHow article "How to Use Magic and Enter the Occult." Some user made a discussion post criticizing my implication that Magick was an occult act.

...of course magick is an act of occultism.

Society grows more delusional by the day. It's like the sugar-coating of the media wears cavities in our brains.

That's simply a side effect of an explosion in the interest in magick generated by Wicca and other related more mainstream forms of occultism which peaked in popularity around 2000 and shows no signs of declining soon, when something goes mainstream suddenly its full of idiots who don't know their arse from their elbow.

Magick / Re: Magic and Bookshops, or the lack thereof
« on: January 10, 2010, 11:00:34 PM »
Its more to do with what's the latest "buzz word" which brings in the bucks

"Magic" has become unfashionable, "Witchcraft" brings in more bucks it seems, though be prepared for books on vampires to take center stage in the "mind body spirit" sections of book stores, Kinokuniya is a great store which used to have a massive section for this kind of stuff, stocking Franz Bardon, Crowley, Regardie ect,

but I visited today only to find the section downsized considerably, with a single regardie and a single bardon book the only gems of the collection, and A THIRD of the collection seemed to be books on vampires riding the Twilight craze...cripes no wonder we get no respect :P

Hello and Goodbye / Re: Micky-P Is Back
« on: January 10, 2010, 10:37:28 PM »
Welcome back, Micky!

I know this is totally off topic, but I guess your avatar is supposed to be a mix of a runic M and a runic P for Micky-P, right?

Correct me if I'm wrong.

(Because if it is, then the "P" part is actually a "W" or "V". Wunjo. <_<)

Thanks Cheezee,
Yeah I'm aware that the second rune doesn't actually correspond to P, its actually the logo for my business card, when designing I tossed up between it being recognizable to those unfamiliar with runes or being accurate, in the end I went with recognizable since most of my clients aren't familiar with runes, I think I'll make a new version for the forum however, thanks for the idea.

Welcome back, and glad to hear you enjoyed some growth ^_^


Thanks Steve, nice to see you're still going strong here, I didn't get the growth I wanted but I got the growth I needed, funny how that happens :D

Hello and Goodbye / Micky-P Is Back
« on: January 10, 2010, 05:57:56 AM »
On the 18th of June 2009 I realized I was spending too much time debating and discussing magical theory without practicing as much as I should, the idea of myself as an armchair magician disgusted me and I left to focus my drives inwards on my own development, deciding to return when I was more dedicated in my practical work.

I've come back now nearly six months later, not because I've reached the dedication in my practical work that I desired but because I've overcome the reason why I was distracted by debate and discussion to take on practical work, in short it came down to arrogance, ego and ideas of intelligence and wisdom which I didn't have.

Meeting with other occultists far more experienced than myself, made me realize the insignificance of my knowledge, experience and ability, in the face of such experience my ego in relation to magic was left in tatters, I don't pretend it isn't there but it doesn't blind me as it used to. Not only this but reading more in depth about astronomy and physics obliterated the attached twin of my magical ego, my scientific one.

However recently as I've completed my degree and left college, I've found myself very embroiled in the mundane world of superficial media driven consciousness, without an anchor in the form of this fantastic occult community I've found myself swept along for the ride.

So with new found humility and awareness of my own insignificance in this vast cosmic drama, and a need for a base I can return to in order to "recharge my batteries" of metaphysical thought, I've come back.   

Lots to catch up on and lots of new faces, which is always the best thing to find when you return somewhere you once called a home.

Theories, Articles, and Philosophy / Re: HOW to ask questions
« on: July 14, 2009, 09:26:32 AM »

Okay, thanks.
But what I meant was "how could you get that word and numerous other metaphysics related words into the Veritas spellchecker?"
Isn't there a way to add specific jargon to a spellchecker to customize it?

You're better off using Firefox, since it comes with a spell checker built in. It will underline in red, incorrect words as you type them just like MS Word, and if you type a word such as Psionic which it does not recognize, simply right click and select "Add to dictionary".

Hello and Goodbye / I'll return when I have something to contribute
« on: June 17, 2009, 07:44:52 PM »
I've decided to stop participating in the Veritas Forums with the exception of coming here when I have a particular piece of information I need from an article.

I've come to the decision that idly posting silly discussions and debating theory and so on is distracting me from actually doing anything in occultism, I've come to realize I spend more time discussing magick online than actually practicing it.

So I'll be leaving for a while till I have my training back on track and feel I actually have something in the way of knowledge and experience to contribute to this community. Because most of what I have contributed so far has been based on theory and material drawn from other sources not experience, and that just seems pretty hollow.

So hopefully when I return I'll be more of a practicing magician and not an armchair one.

« on: June 07, 2009, 09:11:43 AM »
a friend of mine that calls himself a "dark wizard"

I would not put much stock in what your "Dark Wizard" friend has to say.

Admittedly I am basing this entirely on the fact he calls himself a "Dark Wizard" but I think we can all agree you can learn a great deal about somebody by the titles they identify with. I don't think I've found many respectable occultist texts that even use the word "Wizard".

As for the necronomicon, for those gods to have attained enough energy from worship and attention to become real, I think it would take the concentrated effort of a large number of skilled magicians, the number of people who truly believe these entities exist, and have the skill necessary to bring them into being, (also considering how recent a creation the necronomicon is) is pretty lacking.

Another theory I've heard is that the closer a fictional entity is to an archetype, such as the Trickster Archetype, or the Father Archetype. The easier and quicker it can become a real entity, as it ends up becoming more of an extension of the Archetypal entity instead of it's own individual entity. An example might be Loki and the Trickster Archetype.

But in the case of the gods of the necronomicon, as I understand them they are so far removed from any archetype, so alien and unfathomable, that I doubt that the above theory would apply to them.

Also consider that even if mass belief created them, with the tiny number of true believers, and the very short time these gods have been known fictionally, they cant have that much power, I doubt Cthulu will be ending the world any time soon XD

Magick / Re: Servitor spirit pendant
« on: May 22, 2009, 02:09:41 AM »
There are some sites even books and ebook on how to create a servitor, but I hesitate on making them coz I am not that advanced. Here's one answer on the FAQ section of wingedwolf site:

Q:Wouldn't it be better for me to create my own servitors?

A:If you want to put in the time required to learn to make complex servitors, certainly it would be very useful for you. However, this question is similar to asking whether or not you should buy artwork, because you could just learn to paint. Everyone has different talents, and making a sentient construct is not a simple task. It took us over a decade to develop the skills necessary to make constructs on this level. If you have a need for one now, and haven't spent years practicing construct creation, then one of these would definitely be a good option. Attempting to make a construct with complexity beyond your skill level can result in big problems, as Mary Shelley so aptly illustrated in her novel. We encourage people to learn and practice, and develop their skills over time. If you can do better than us, then of course you wouldn't have a need for one of our servitors. Just don't let someone convince you that you can make one just like this if you've only been creating shields and psi balls up until now. Creating sentient entities can be dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

If you look at their descriptions of the servitors capabilities, their servitors would be highly advanced. The thing is, all the research I've done on the formation of servitors suggests that it is a very time consuming devoted process, I'm talking months here at least.

If they spent the kind of time necessary to craft such complex servitors as they claim then they would turning them out at such a slow rate it wouldn't be profitable, or practical. Also the amount of time invested would result in a much higher price.

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