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Magick / Re: the IIH something weird
« on: May 08, 2011, 08:58:28 AM »
Animus, you nailed the exact answer for why he's not able to read more than 4 pages at atime. There are spirtual forces that guard against trying to get something from the book by just reading it over, insteadof doing one exercise at atime

If they exist they must be off the clock most of the time, because the number of armchair magicians who just study and don't practice FAR outweigh the practical magicians.

The answer to why you're not moving through this book as quickly probably has to do with information density, the abstract nature of the concepts within, and that it is a complex system, each part as an individual needing to be understood in addition to understanding how they work together to produce reality as we know it.

Its not easy to just breeze through a book which covers that kind of subject matter, it took me considerable time to work my way through the theory section at the beginning when I first started out.

Magick / Re: Magical Oath
« on: February 16, 2011, 07:43:03 PM »
A magical oath can be broken. The fall out is a nasty downward spiral of Will leading to spiritual apathy and blah-ness. It's arguable in these cases that you didn't perform the Oath properly though. I'm thinking Crowley was being Crowley and implying that since completing the Oath is furthering the "True Will," the universe (under the direction of the HGA) will get out of the magician's way on his path to accomplish it.

Edit: Broken Oaths can cause some serious funky malefic backlash in the magician's sphere, as well.

Seconded this would be my experience as well.

Magick / Re: First Overt Feat of Healing
« on: February 04, 2011, 08:02:59 AM »
Congratulations on your success, its always nice to have things which concrete your confidence like this.

I'm curious though, exactly how did you use the rune for this effect?

Magick / Re: Pulsa diNura curse
« on: February 04, 2011, 07:58:15 AM »
It's not karmic acceleration though, it's magically cutting off the good karma and any chance of accruing new good karma.

Such a thing is cruelty beyond words IMO, because everyone deserves to be judged fairly and equitably.

Applying Karma to a system which doesn't use it is a bit iffy.

BUT in any event, it doesn't cut you off from "good" karma, it prevents forgiveness or absolution of sin, i.e it prevents the person from having his "bad" karma removed by God.

However the idea that you can block the creator of the universe from taking an action seems a bit silly. Unless you view this simply as a blind mechanism, loading Karma on and taking it off again, then I suppose you could theoretically interfere with it, though it leads you to wonder.

Considering that the mechanism of Karma is bigger and more established than any of us, how difficult would it actually be to effect it in any meaningful way?

Magick / Re: Inspiration not Proof
« on: October 15, 2010, 10:36:43 AM »
You are coming at this from EXACTLY the same angle I did when I first started,

I went in with the idea that while I've seen some inspiring videos around, including the ones you've mentioned, I could only prove it by investigating by myself.

I went in, walked the road and have found more than enough evidence to keep me walking it.

My only advice is to not let your zeal die down when you, through your experiences, find significant evidence that convinces you, I had this happen and it really put the brakes on my progress.

Magick / Re: bipolar meds intefering with spiritual development?
« on: October 05, 2010, 10:24:09 PM »
And just because they have been used traditionally, does not mean that they were useful. Maybe the magicians of yestermillenia just like toking up as much as some of those of today ;P


And neither does it mean they were not, the point that I am trying laboriously to reach here, is that we don't know for certain. Dismissing them out of hand with now real experience or knowledge of their effects on the metaphysical seems presumptuous.

Magick / Re: bipolar meds intefering with spiritual development?
« on: October 05, 2010, 07:38:29 AM »
Many brain chemistry states can FEEL powerful as if there are important metaphysical states happening, but I know of no well-documented cases of verifiable results coming from a medication or drug related state of mind. 

I know of no well documented cases of verifiable results coming from any other state of mind either.

If there were verifiable results of metaphysical operations we wouldn't enjoy being looked upon as crazy by mainstream society.

On a side note, mind altering substances have played a role in many magical traditions through time, simply because the predominant ideology on this forum dismisses their role, does not mean they have nothing to contribute.

Magick / Re: Pore Breathing- What's right?
« on: April 23, 2010, 07:47:52 AM »
IIH is the best and most complete system of magic that is PUBLICLY available

Its FAR from the most complete, "complete" is not a word I would associate with it in any way shape or form.

Its the most fundamental, i.e the stuff that is absolutely VITAL to success in magic, its the most effective and straight forward for developing core skills and abilities. But when compared to The Golden Dawn, or Book Four, you can see there is a lot more filler which can enhance the experience beyond fundamental skills.

This is for good reason, the system doesn't distract you with irrelevant stuff you don't absolutely NEED, but none the less other stuff is nice to have at a certain point. For example it doesn't instruct you in the Qabalistic Cross or the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram, but even so I've found those two enormously valuable tools, even from the very beginning of my practice, they gave me a practical way of using the increasing mental focus, and visualization ability.

Just because you can live on water, bread and vitamin pills, doesn't mean there isn't more out there that can enhance the experience.

Main Hall / James Randi $1000000 Challenge
« on: April 21, 2010, 10:26:37 AM »
I'm interested to hear people's opinions on James Randi's million dollar paranormal challenge.

In case you haven't heard of it, the challenge pretty much promised one million dollars to the person who demonstrates psychic abilities under controlled conditions.

The JREF (James Randi Educational Foundation) makes big point about the fact nobody has won this yet.

Though the experience of certain people who have inquired regarding the challenge, and looking at the rules for myself, doesn't paint it in a very good light.

Sean Connelly recounts his experience when he tried asking some specific questions on the nature of exactly how the money would be payed in the link below, he also provides the email logs and forum posts in HTML form (though easily faked, it would be a lot of effort to write up 6 pages of forum posts which can still be found on the original forum anyway) The rude and evasive responses he received didn't exactly reassure him of the integrity of the JREF.

Personally after looking at the rules and other material from Randi I'm inclined to think the challenge is designed to exclude as many people as possible,

You must have a media presence to be accepted, i.e must have appeared in mainstream TV or Newspaper on the subject of your abilities, also Randi only allows certain types of phenomena to be accepted for testing, the ones he doesn't allow he only provides very unsatisfactory answers as to why, if at all, really its very arbitrary.

These are just two points out of many, but its hardly surprising nobody has succeeded in the challenge, considering that not single person on this forum for example, would be eligible.

Magick / Re: Gifts?
« on: April 12, 2010, 08:59:37 AM »

makes me wonder, as this painful stuff certainly doesn't seem holy... or is holy completely subjective? I had asked that I understand the light as well as the dark.

Think of it this way, while things that are "holy" or "divine" aren't typically associated with pain and such, doctors swear to do no harm in their Hippocratic oath, however treating illness in all its forms almost always involves harm, to treat a cancer you use chemotherapy which causes havoc for your immune system, causes you to lose your hair and generally poisons you. To remove a perforated appendix the surgeon has to cut you open, causing harm, to set a dislocated arm in place it has to be pulled on hard, a very painful procedure.

And lets not forget that almost everything you gain involves some form of pain, whether getting fit (feel the burn!), studying, overcoming personal issues ect.

And lets face it, if you asked for light and dark you're only getting what you asked for

Magick / Re: Articles revised
« on: April 12, 2010, 08:51:27 AM »
Sounds great to me, and very much appreciated.

Will you also be fixing the articles which have been cut off at the end, such as the metaphysical defense one?

Magick / Re: Occult Virtues of Gemstones
« on: March 25, 2010, 08:07:19 PM »
It's that so many people attach meaning to them that they have power. The result is only marginally different from your model.

In my model, it's like an egregore is attached to each type of stone. In your model, it's placebo. In your model, your result will never outshine your current level of skill.

But for that model to work there would have to be a universal set of attributions, as I mentioned every store you find these stones at has different ideas about what they're used for, and different practitioners all have different ideas regarding their attributions.

The egregore model depends on a large number of people all attributing the same qualities to the same symbols, with gems it isn't the case.

Magick / Re: Occult Virtues of Gemstones
« on: March 25, 2010, 06:58:54 AM »
What do you learned ones suggest that a mediocre/novice magician do with these things?

Purely for the purpose of sharing, among others, I bought an Amethyst Small which supposedly awakens one's talents, and Red Jasper, which supposedly helps people see projects through.

What I'm about to say is going to be unpopular and a bit of a rant but...

They are lumps of rock...that is it. You will get about as much effect out of crystals as you do from a rock you find on the side of the road.

I go from new age store to new age store, and what I find is that each store has different ideas about what certain types of crystal are supposed to do. They carry on as though these qualities are innate parts of these stones, but they are ideas that humans have attached to the stones not the other way around.

You cant help but notice that according to the descriptions at the shop, EVERY stone is for "protection" "healing" "good luck" "happiness" "peace" and other assorted fluffy white light and unicorns crap.

A fundamental rule of almost every occult tradition is duality, everything has an opposite. Light is defined by Dark and vice versa, Growth is balanced by Decay, etc

Why is it that EVERY SINGLE stone you find in any new ager book is full of happy love and light, WHERE are the stones of decay, conflict, despair, destruction etc?

If you honestly believe with all your heart that a stone will do something, it will work, not because it has those qualities but through the action of your magickal will/placebo effect. (more or less the same thing)

Theories, Articles, and Philosophy / Re: Having doubts
« on: March 23, 2010, 08:12:48 AM »
I would recommend getting everything down on paper, thoughts and counter thoughts chasing each others tails in your head will get you nowhere.

First write out what you define as the paranormal, this is an important question, some consider it to be anything that is outside of the scientific mainstream, considering that the scientific mainstream is a dogmatic ideology when it comes to the difficult to quantify this can be limiting, some consider it to be anything spiritual in nature, some don't consider anything to be truly paranormal since everything is explainable in a scientific and logical manner eventually.

Having established what you consider to be the paranormal,

Write out the reasons you have to consider the paranormal a reality, and then write another list of the reasons you have to believe it is not a reality

If the validity of any of the reasons depends on third party evidence, discard them. Keep only the ones which stem from your own experience.

The next part takes even deeper soul searching

Write down the reasons you might WANT the paranormal to be a reality despite the evidence, and also write a list of the reasons you might WANT the paranormal not to be a reality despite the evidence.

This is vital, if you want to believe something in spite of contrary evidence, you will end up twisting the evidence any way you have to no matter how impartially you try to weigh it up. If you can expose these inner desires to the light of reason you can decide how the evidence you've put together for and against should be weighed up.

Hope this helps.

Magick / Re: Power of Words: What is your name?
« on: March 23, 2010, 07:55:21 AM »
I feel that my first step into anything at all is to have power and control over myself.

So you want to achieve this through use of your true name? Is that it?
I'm not sure if you're making a statement and then moving onto something unrelated, or these are related.

There is no shortage of articles on exercises designed to improve mental discipline, that along with a good amount of time spent on introspection would be more sure methods of success in gaining control over yourself.

As for true names,

Words are just mouth sounds, written characters just symbols for higher ideas, not to mention languages being human creations.

Whatever language crafted creation itself, and whatever form it's "words" (if they can be called that) take, its probably going to be quite unlike and quite transcendent beyond any human concept of what a language or even the ideas behind a language are. 

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