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Hello and Goodbye / back for some air
« on: December 07, 2009, 03:38:29 PM »
It's been a long time since I've practiced any form of spirituality. After a winding road of life-related stuffs, I've decided to get back at it and form some sort of basis spiritually.

You know when they say "Don't dabble?"

That's very good advice.

Magick / Re: Back from my cave for now
« on: December 07, 2009, 03:36:31 PM »

Other / Re: **2012-Maya-Precessional Cycle-Ice Age**
« on: March 01, 2008, 03:11:37 PM »
Change is a constant occurrence in the world. What makes you think there will be any such changes 'coming' that are even comparable to the 'end of the world'?

The earth is far from ending, but 'our world' may greatly change and/or end.

Other / Re: **2012-Maya-Precessional Cycle-Ice Age**
« on: February 29, 2008, 10:43:34 AM »
There are many problems, I agree.

The environmental issues (toxic waste fills overflowing, pesticides and GMO crop takeover, & global warming) and population strike me as most prominent. Then we have societal issues all over the world.

There's definitely a change coming, whether or not it's the prophetic one.

Other / Re: **2012-Maya-Precessional Cycle-Ice Age**
« on: February 29, 2008, 10:10:38 AM »
Regardless, here's a working version of that link above:

Main Hall / Re: 9/11 was fake!
« on: May 23, 2007, 01:22:12 PM »
Thanks, I've posted there. This topic should be closed. I did try a search for 9/11 but the "/" got in the way.

Main Hall / Re: 911 What Happened Poll (anonymous)
« on: May 23, 2007, 01:20:16 PM »
There's so much more information to be questioned. What about the plane at the pentagon crash site? The official story is that it disintegrated... All the government has to do to prove every single conspiracy theory wrong is release the surveillance tapes from the pentagon.

I've done tons of research, and switched opinions multiple times. My final conclusion is that it was definitely planned by the U.S. government, or Israeli Mossad.

Here's a couple of interesting tidbits:
~ There have been tons of fires, where skyscrapers burnt for days, even weeks, and didn't collapse. The first recorded collapse of a skyscraper due to fire was on 9/11. The architect of the twin towers built the building to withstand a boeing 707, fire, extreme winds, and much more.
~ The building was completely destroyed, and a week after the entire thing MOLTEN STEEL was found at ground zero....
~ The remains were shipped to China. Why?
~ The pentagon "747 airplaine" disintegrated, but they retrieved the DNA of passengers? wah?
~ The flight 93 "plane crash," included a few random scraps of metal and a hole...

And there's so so so much more.

The 'smoking gun' is WTC 7. Think about the Silverstein's comment "pull it," which is a demolition term. Also, that building was not hit by a plane...

I urge you to rethink it, watch a few documentaries.

*** Debate between "Loose Change" & Popular Mechanics ***
The Popular Mechanics guys did a good job jumping through loopholes and avoiding questions. When the conspiracy theorists asked where are the pentagon videos? Popular Mechanics answered with "We saw some pictures, it was a plane." So why can't we see the video, and why aren't those pictures public? To tell whether or not a scientist is a paid off crony, check to see if he's part of a lobbyist group. Sure enough, the guy quoted a "scientific study" in engineering that came straight from a privately funded special interest group...

It's a big sham guys. The Patriot Act, the President's new dictatorship directive, and much more. We're in Iraq for Oil. Iran is next, yada yada yada. It sucks, but that's the reality. If you really wanna debate it, I'll spend the time getting all the necessary stuff. Hopefully you'll do your own research though.

From "The 1-hour Guide to 9/11"
For the record, few in the scientific community doubt that it's theoretically possible for a building to experience failure if it is subjected to devastating heat for a sufficient period of time. And additional factors like no fire-proofing, no sprinkler systems, insufficient steel to "bleed off" heat or inferior construction greatly increase the possibility. However, what is "doubted" (or more accurately; considered downright impossible) is that such a failure would resemble anything like what was witnessed on 9/11. -Gradual, isolated, asymmetrical failures spread out over time; perhaps -simultaneous disintegration of all load bearing columns (leaving a pile of neatly folded rubble a few stories high) -no way.

Watch Bush's family history:

There's proof... I can understand though, people don't like to be labeled as a conspiracy theorist, or "different" so it's easy to reject the truth at times like these :P

Main Hall / Halliburton's Internment Camps
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:49:29 AM »

Just a teaser... red or blue pill?

If you chose the freedom pill or whatever (I can't remember which color that was in the Matrix :P), read on:

Editor's Note: A little-known $385 million contract for Halliburton subsidiary KBR to build detention facilities for "an emergency influx of immigrants" is another step down the Bush administration's road toward martial law, the writer says.

A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."

The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when.

To date, some newspapers have worried that open-ended provisions in the contract could lead to cost overruns, such as have occurred with KBR in Iraq. A Homeland Security spokesperson has responded that this is a "contingency contract" and that conceivably no centers might be built. But almost no paper so far has discussed the possibility that detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law.

For those who follow covert government operations abroad and at home, the contract evoked ominous memories of Oliver North's controversial Rex-84 "readiness exercise" in 1984. This called for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to round up and detain 400,000 imaginary "refugees," in the context of "uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United States. North's activities raised civil liberties concerns in both Congress and the Justice Department. The concerns persist.

"Almost certainly this is preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters," says Daniel Ellsberg, a former military analyst who in 1971 released the Pentagon Papers, the U.S. military's account of its activities in Vietnam. "They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."

Plans for detention facilities or camps have a long history, going back to fears in the 1970s of a national uprising by black militants. As Alonzo Chardy reported in the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987, an executive order for continuity of government (COG) had been drafted in 1982 by FEMA head Louis Giuffrida. The order called for "suspension of the Constitution" and "declaration of martial law." The martial law portions of the plan were outlined in a memo by Giuffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff.

In 1985, President Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive 188, one of a series of directives that authorized continued planning for COG by a private parallel government.

Two books, James Mann's "Rise of the Vulcans" and James Bamford's "A Pretext for War," have revealed that in the 1980s this parallel structure, operating outside normal government channels, included the then-head of G. D. Searle and Co., Donald Rumsfeld, and then-Congressman from Wyoming Dick Cheney.

After 9/11, new martial law plans began to surface similar to those of FEMA in the 1980s. In January 2002 the Pentagon submitted a proposal for deploying troops on American streets. One month later John Brinkerhoff, the author of the 1982 FEMA memo, published an article arguing for the legality of using U.S. troops for purposes of domestic security.

Then in April 2002, Defense Dept. officials implemented a plan for domestic U.S. military operations by creating a new U.S. Northern Command (CINC-NORTHCOM) for the continental United States. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called this "the most sweeping set of changes since the unified command system was set up in 1946."

The NORTHCOM commander, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced, is responsible for "homeland defense and also serves as head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).... He will command U.S. forces that operate within the United States in support of civil authorities. The command will provide civil support not only in response to attacks, but for natural disasters."

John Brinkerhoff later commented on PBS that, "The United States itself is now for the first time since the War of 1812 a theater of war. That means that we should apply, in my view, the same kind of command structure in the United States that we apply in other theaters of war."

Then in response to Hurricane Katrina in Sept. 2005, according to the Washington Post, White House senior adviser Karl Rove told the governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, that she should explore legal options to impose martial law "or as close as we can get." The White House tried vigorously, but ultimately failed, to compel Gov. Blanco to yield control of the state National Guard.

Also in September, NORTHCOM conducted its highly classified Granite Shadow exercise in Washington. As William Arkin reported in the Washington Post, "Granite Shadow is yet another new Top Secret and compartmented operation related to the military's extra-legal powers regarding weapons of mass destruction. It allows for emergency military operations in the United States without civilian supervision or control."

It is clear that the Bush administration is thinking seriously about martial law.

Many critics have alleged that FEMA's spectacular failure to respond to Katrina followed from a deliberate White House policy: of paring back FEMA, and instead strengthening the military for responses to disasters.

A multimillion program for detention facilities will greatly increase NORTHCOM's ability to respond to any domestic disorders.

Peter  Dale Scott is author of "Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina" (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003). He is completing a book on "The Road to 9/11." Visit his Web site .

Global Research Articles by Peter Dale Scott

Main Hall / 9/11 was fake!
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:46:46 AM »
Dare to debate? I'm astonished that there aren't any discussions about the increasing unlawfulness of the Bush administration.

- 9/11
- Patriot Act
- President's new directive (he's now a dictator...)

Where's our freedom?

Do you guys still believe that Osama Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11?

Main Hall / Re: illuminati info
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:41:01 AM »
To see if you were gullible enough to believe it. Dont worry about illuminati, there is no gigantic hidden shadow group controlling everything.  NO GROUP LIKE THAT EXISTS. The closest you'd get is like a skull and bones group or something of that nature, which isnt secretive enough to hide itself. On another note, beverly hills is hardly the creme de la creme.

Sorry to revive this age old thread, but due to the recent corruptions, I thought it would be nice to shed some light on the topic once again.

There is a group that exists, they're called Bilderberg:

Regardless of whether or not they are 'Illuminati,' the level of sheer corruption prevalent in the world today begs of the 'awakened' to take heed. Which is why I'm so surprised that there are apparently no Veritasans actively promoting a message of truth.

Body Energy Arts / Re: Speed *Woosh*
« on: May 23, 2007, 08:10:28 AM »
kobok wins "Best answer of the post award."

Veritas should make some thing like the Yahoo! answers program.

Body Energy Arts / Re: Healing
« on: May 23, 2007, 07:33:50 AM »
I think that to be a healer it's a path, not an ability. Some people have a latent talent, but in the long run if you want to be a 'Healer," I suggest:
- Training in qigong, yoga, & basic magick (magis are most often great healers).
- Training in/knowledge of psychology, buddhism, and different belief systems.

As you progress down your path you learn what works for you. I've been on my path for some good years now, and it's leading towards healer & political activist/leader. What I've learned about healing is that it's very similar to other metaphysics. Usually what works for one person doesn't always work for everyone, but as Kettle mentioned the concept is most important.

I like to think of it in simple terms. When someone is hurt physically, the etheric is slightly affected. The physical cells however are most affected. To rapidly heal those cells, providing extra energy in that area works the best for me. I use a hands on technique personally, but lots of people do different things. I like to actually make skin to skin contact, while Reiki is more ritualistic movements, sometimes with stones etc...

In the end, it's more about your focus, concentration, and ability to direct and raise energy, than your technique. And all those come with practice and experience.

What's Wai dan training? Sounds like the magickal stuff of imbuing thoughts into your surroundings or self via thought and energy.

Body Energy Arts / Re: How to do anything!
« on: May 23, 2007, 07:07:26 AM »
I agree w/ mr. Ninja up there, some punctuation and capital letters would've made it easier to read. You brought up an interesting point though, about DNA.

I also agree with Faijer about argument. In the classical sense it is a logical debate, not what is known in the common sense way: a yelling match.

What makes you think Jesus' DNA was different? Our DNA is so close to just about every other animal on earth, it's hard to imagine what was different about Jesus'. I've read a lot about activating DNA and so on, yet fail to understand where those conclusions came from. I'm agnostic when it comes to so many of these new age things because I can't disprove it, but then again I don't believe. I guess apathetic would be a more concise way to put it.... I don't really care about DNA or whatever.

Anyways, from your post I got the impression that you can fly. If so, please prove it to James Randi, earn a million bucks, and help raise humanities global consciousness. If anyone could scientifically prove psychic ability, or existence of the soul, we'd probably move towards a greater understanding of ourselves (as a species).

Can you fly?  :P

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