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Body Energy Arts / Re: Amount of energy - discussion
« on: April 06, 2016, 03:16:20 AM »
Hey Mystic, sounds like you know more about the traditional details than I do.

The reason I advise against using energy that is not from the dantien is because in situations where myself and others have done there have been reports of problems, especially in the cases of meditation when people focuse "from their head" and may do something such as furrow their brow leading to headaches, this is something I observed in practice aswell. The other situation which made it clear to me to focus using energy from the dantien was when I would have particularly emotional feelings during meditation I might have had either heart palpitations or adrenaline racing through my body, whilst these are enjoyable to some extent they can leave me feeling drained, I found that constantly returning focus to the dantien gave a more stable, healthy effect that also gave a better overall feeling that was well grounded.

My definition of Jing isn't correct based on what you are saying, what I am really trying to talk about is vital energy that can't be simply restored by meditative practice, the fundamental life force of which you only have a certain amount which is tied to sexual activity.

In conclusion I am careful in my energy practice where I use energy from, I particularly don't want energy to spill out from my kidneys or brain, the only energy kind of vital energy I would use is circulating the sexual energy from the genitals in sexual meditations towards the brain.

Like I said, I don't want to pretend I know more than other people around here, but focusing on the lower dantien has been a generally good safety precaution for me over the past 10 years, it's really all I've had to do in my energetic practices.

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Magick / Re: On vampires
« on: April 04, 2016, 07:44:32 AM »
what you don't actually realeyes is that we are all part of a giant fruit cake, and you are one of the raisins.

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Other / Re: Books on Astrology for a skeptic
« on: April 03, 2016, 09:33:27 PM »
Mind_Bender, probably the best idea bro.

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Magick / Re: On vampires
« on: April 03, 2016, 09:31:47 PM »
qtvali,

you need to encode everything you are saying into an elaborate fictional novel other wise the aliens will find out that you are telling everyone their secrets and they will remove a piece of your brain and have you locked up.

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Body Energy Arts / Re: Amount of energy - discussion
« on: April 03, 2016, 09:20:38 PM »
Hey,

I'd like to throw in my 2c.

First of all lets remember that there are several forms of energy, wielding the energy within environment is (relatively) infinite in the right place such as in nature, but the energy within your body is not.

If someone is saying they feel like they are running out of energy they are probably performing their practice incorrectly, you should only ever draw power from your center of gravity, aka your lower dantian, never try to use energy from any other part of your body as that will result in headaches and all sorts of things. This remains true even for the most basic, mundane acts such as thinking or looking at something, use energy from the lower dantian, think with your dantien (energeticly), if you think with your head you will get a headache, if you stare at things you will get sore eyes. You can think and act from the dantian and then through other sources but the dantian is your home base and should be the reservoir of your energy, even if you do use the energy in your dantian it can be replenished via simple meditation and eating food good food. The main point here is not to use the (jing) energy from your kidneys or brain in your practice*.

Energy within the body is quantitative, if you run up a hill you get tired because you are out of energy, there is no clear dividing line between metaphysical sources of energy and physical sources of energy. Energy such as Qi / Prana / Aether / Spiritus / Mana etc is a higher-level abstract concept, for example when I want to move myself forward I just focus my willpower in the direction I want to go and my legs move automatically, I don't have to think about lifting my feet. Energy does not relate back to one thing, sometimes it refers to heat within the body, a persons ability to hold concentration, physical momentum, the adrenaline produced above the kidneys, or even just the potential of oxygen from every breath you draw in.

Unless you want to be a traditional Chinese medicine practitioner then you are only concerned with a few main types of energy from two points within the body and the environment, the energy that you draw in with every breath and the energy in your lower dantian that is created by eating food and the latent energy within the environment.

Energy work the same as weight lifting, in lifting weights there is essentially one rule, don't curl your back, don't risk hurting your spine, keep your abs tight and work from your center of gravity, stick to that rule and as long as you don't do something really weird you'll be fine.

In energy work it's almost the same rule, work from your center of gravity, COG aka lower dantian; cultivate energy into the dantian through meditation and abdominal breathing, then send that energy to other parts of the body or use it in your psionic practice, magick, reiki etc.

I've got a lot going on in my head with "what about this situation or that situation", like what about vampirism or kundalini or other dodgey practices that use jing, however I don't want to go into that, I just want to address the OP,  the most important thing is just to cement that concept of the lower dantian being the storehouse of energy and that energy from there is sent to other locations in the body or used for outwards cultivation (such as the hands in reiki), if you are on vsociety.net then you are likely willing to experiment with energy; even basic exercises like focusing on your third eye can cause problems such as headaches or worse, so make sure you have that energetic link back to the lower dantian and as long as you don't do anything too extreme or weird then you'll safe and you should not have to worry about energy depletion or debt or hurting yourself in someway.

* The exercises that people do which use jing usually relate to circulating jing around the body especially in the brain, the joints, kidneys, genitals and that maybe as simple as rotating your joints in qigong or performing the microcosmic orbit exercise; however it is only ever circulated around the body (or between 2 bodies in sexual practice) and is not outwardly used or expelled.

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Other / Books on Astrology for a skeptic
« on: March 29, 2016, 03:18:10 AM »
Hi,

I am looking for some books on astrology, I am primarily interested in the historical and the archetypal figures of astrology as well as how these figures relate to astrotheology, I am not interested in some wishy washy new-age garbage about peoples personalities or predicting the future. I want to learn about astrology from a strictly atheistic, athopological and  occult perspective.

Can you make any recommendations?

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I'm talking specifically about the subliminal effects of things placed in the ritual space, for example the altar is a symbol of the mind, an obvious example is the bio-psychological effect of looking up and feeling that, that which above you is dominant to you.

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Hey,

What do you call the effect of the environmental situation to the psyche, for example when there is a large statue of the king and you have to keep looking up, or the effect of many initiation rituals where the candidate is blindfolded so they trust. All body language effects the psyche in a way like this, it is the undertone of ceremonial magick.

What is the name for this effect?

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If I concentrate on something I can either suppress it or send that energy into it.

If I don't let the energy rise then I can get a kind of "charged" sensation where it feels like my body is being nourished by the energy or if I allow it to rise it inspires ecstatic feelings. I spoke to a TaiQi teacher about 5 years ago and he said that it was adrenaline from my kidneys. That seems legit, however there is a whole range of specific energy sensations that accompany the experience, it is in many ways my path to practicing magic, I really get very strong sense of willpower and being able to bring energy from the sky or even telepathic sensations and move or feel energy with greater ease.

It's quite difficult for me to explain, I don't fully understand it, originally it started out as the normal sorts of ecstatic feels one might feel when listening to music, then over time it developed into full body sensations of movement of energy around the body, the only thing that really destroys the experience is the moveing around or concentrate on things, although light forms of meditative walking can go along with the experience.

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I do like mysticism, I just don't like the Abrahamic (Judeo-Christian-Islamic) faiths or their people either to be honest.

As Netero states, it is really just a total and utter mess of people trying to fit circular pegs into square holes and that's why I don't like Qabbalistic tree of life, and every single author has a totally different opinion of what's what, unless that author is the student of another author creating a kind of various families of interpretation.


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It sounds like you've had an unpleasant experience with your shadow, I would recommend you continue to experience and try to find out more about this "satan" or "demon" as you call it, all these things are just subjective names we assign to things within our psyche and the energy fields around us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_(psychology)

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However he did take control of all my friends and turned them into cultists.

Now I'm just not sure if you are a troll or not.

Sometimes a demon disguises itself as your shadow to try to be undistinguishable. A hypothetical to consider.

Then it's your shadow, disguised as a demon, disguised as your shadow. It's all in your psyche bro.

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It sounds like you've had an unpleasant experience with your shadow, I would recommend you continue to experience and try to find out more about this "satan" or "demon" as you call it, all these things are just subjective names we assign to things within our psyche and the energy fields around us.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_(psychology)

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However he did take control of all my friends and turned them into cultists.

Now I'm just not sure if you are a troll or not.

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Body Energy Arts / Strong Meditation experiences, is this Kundalini?
« on: March 01, 2016, 12:41:51 PM »
Hi,

Often when I sit in meditation after I've passed the initial stage of adjusting my posture and relaxing my muscles for 5 or so minutes I often start to feel pulsations of energy rush over my body, rising up my spine then gradually falling down my chest. I can also manipulate this energy with my will and this is something that has been going on for a long time now and I found that when I use my will to reject the pleasant sensation I get a kind of "bucketing" effect, and that once that energy charges up somewhat I can use a sigil or focus on the image of a godhead and invoke a kind of mystical experience on that.

Sometimes I listen to music when I meditate to help drown out the sounds of doors shutting, people talking, cars, birds etc, that I find quite frightening when I meditate because I sort of get to the point where anything I hear that I'm not expecting sounds like somebody slamming a door really loud in a quite room. So what music I listen to also adds flavor to the experience, sometimes I have strong fantasies where I am a warrior or a magician or fighting my enemies like some sort of hero.

This is all a totally different thing to the sort of tranquil Buddhist experience, it's very ecstatic in contrast to the average zen style experience, I can apply my will to get the desired experience I want combined with a certain type of ritual beforehand and music.

So I was wondering if people have similar experiences or methods and I was wondering if the energy that goes up my back in the way path of the microcosmic orbit is kundalini?

please enlighten me.

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So, for a while I studied the Qabbalistic tree of life, but I never really got what it's really trying to say, except that some people talk about it as being various stages of spiritual enlightenment.

I don't really like the Judeo-Christian stuff, I much prefer Buddhism, Daoism, Egyptian or Early-European mythology, pretty much everything and anything is better than the Judeo-Christian junk IMO.

So is there any reason why I should lean the Qabbalistic Tree of Life? It's just another arbitrary subjective bunch of divisions isn't it? Could some other Buddhist or European view of the separate worlds or states of consciousness suffice?

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Theories, Articles, and Philosophy / Occult / Psionic Fiction
« on: March 01, 2016, 10:22:19 AM »
Hey y'all,

As I mentioned previously in another post I'm a bit bored of occult books full of peoples subjective personal opinions on how god x corresponds means this and that. I have read some quite good papers by members here on Veritas which really tried to stay as objective as possible. All I can say about that is that it's a pleasure to be here.

I was wondering however if anybody had any favored fiction they could share that inspired them, I'm a big fan of Lovecraft for example, if you can tell me any authors and preferably there books that have inspired your personal journey in Psionic / Occult / Magickal discovery then I'd love to hear about it.

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