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Magick / Re: Initiation into Heremetics - I am stuck on Step 1!
« on: January 11, 2016, 09:23:11 AM »
Try mastering the opposite first.

Instead of focusing on nothing, try visualizing something and holding that image as long as possible.

Once you feel like you can focus indefinitely on a single visualization try to make it as real as possible by giving it context and involving all your senses.

Magick / Re: Please, I need somebody help me.
« on: January 08, 2016, 07:42:12 PM »
Well you have the internet.

You could also contact the police.

Magick / Re: Pythagoras and the Secret Meaning of Numbers
« on: December 27, 2015, 10:08:58 AM »
Good stuff guys.

Spirituality / Re: Good books on Buddha and Buddhism?
« on: December 21, 2015, 09:00:35 AM »
I know you said you're mostly interested in Buddha, but if you're also interested in meditation and the Zen angle at all this is my favorite book.

Very legit.

Main Hall / Re: Since I've returned to "the community"
« on: December 05, 2015, 12:24:26 PM »
Choice words friend.

Magick / Re: Magick: Is Magick real?
« on: December 04, 2015, 10:27:09 PM »
I combine sigils and thoughtforms with alchemy, shamanism, and Jungian psychology.

I found that through seeking to develop myself spiritually I am capable of accomplishing greater changes in my reality magickally.

Main Hall / Re: Be smart.
« on: December 04, 2015, 10:23:41 PM »
Answers my question

Main Hall / Since I've returned to "the community"
« on: December 04, 2015, 10:22:58 PM »
So I've been studying and practicing magick and more specifically Alchemy, hermeticism, jungian psychology, shamanism, and sigils/thoughtforms for over 10 years now and I've experienced a wide range of changes in my reality and within myself.

Its taken me across the globe and changed my physical makeup. Its enlightened me to what I originally could only assume were consequences, introduced me to some of the most powerful people on earth, and given me experiences that I can only describe with the words used by mystics of the past and prophets in mythology. This includes passing through the eye of the needle, the alchemical marriage, the opening of the third eye, the long dark night, ect, ect. At this point everything regarding the path of the mystic has been covered and I'm beginning to explore ideas such as time, immortality, and yes.... aliens from other dimensions as well as physical beings from other planets.

However, upon my return to what I consider the occult community (which I will define as online forums, local groups, members of secret societies, and modern writers and their fans) I have encountered immense resistance to the lessons I've learned personally regarding the current situation of humanity, where we came from, and where we are going.

From where I stand, it seems like the occult community as a whole (and I'm speaking generally here) has failed to learn the lessons of the past and is in fact stuck in rediscovering those lessons in order to better understand where they fit as individuals within a modern society which has evolved immensely since the time of the ancient mystics.

It seems to me that the average human, while having no knowledge of the occult and is often atheist in modern society, is generally better suited to operate as a member of the modern body of humanity than your average occultist. To me this is simply because modern society is an evolution of an ancient one and when a certain practice or understanding becomes no longer sustainable, society adapts to satisfy the majority in order to maintain harmony with the greater body of humanity. Your average modern human only needs to understand how to operate in the current system in order to be successful in contributing to the body of humanity.

The pattern I've witnessed is that the more an individual can and will contribute to the greater body, the more elevated their position in terms of social status, money, and responsibility.

While the greater body of humanity grows and develops, leaders of mankind have conflicting ideas of which way it should go and therefore we encounter all forms of disagreements in history. We have seen brothers kill each other, tribes and nations at war. Politicians engage in slander, and corporations conducting hostile takeovers as well as extremely rich individuals using complex financial tools to ensure them and their supporters continue to experience success.

When I look at the history of the body of humanity I see struggles and obstacles, lessons learned, and maybe a few scars, but overall I see intense progress. The world as a whole has experienced great accomplishments in thwarting violence, disease, and poverty.

Suffering and chaos is an ever present constant, but its obvious to me that we have eased suffering along the way and made so many advancements in our understanding of the chaos that surrounds us. Without considering my current research, its impressive to think that we once barely understood the movement of the herds, the tides, or the weather. Now we have the ability to look into the canyons of planets across our solar system and collect samples from the rock.

The earth has impressively gone from only being able to create single celled organisms that could barely tell light from dark to what humanity is today.

While the struggle is constant and real and everyday brings new problems to be solved, I don't believe my faith in humanity to be blind.

However, that which raised me, "the occult community" feels like its now turning on me. The general occultist in my latest experiences have been poor, uneducated, uninvolved with society, and wrapped up and confused by theories that do nothing to empower them, but only enslave them with their own fear and doubt in the stability of the body of humanity. The sources of their information are individuals no better off than themselves and create enemies out of individuals who are genuinely trying to help them.

I'm so confused and sad. On one hand I care so much for the community and truly believe in the potential of individuals who seek to understand the subtle workings of the universe, but on the other I have little patience for cancerous individuals who would rather witness the apocalypse or organize an outright revolution because they think the world is flat and the luxuries of the developed world just aren't good enough.

Its even worse when they speak in the place of individuals who they've never met on the opposite side of the globe as if they have experienced whatever atrocity they read about in the news first hand.

So confused.

Spirituality / Re: Century of the Self
« on: December 01, 2015, 07:00:31 PM »
I think a proper magician is a master of both, the individualistic as well as community life.

Magick / Re: Magick: Is Magick real?
« on: November 30, 2015, 09:11:04 PM »
lol, its a saying.

I have no idea how many times you should practice 1 strike to become a master at it.

Magick / Re: Magick: Is Magick real?
« on: November 30, 2015, 08:56:13 AM »
Its not the 1,000 strikes you practiced once I'm afraid of, but the 1 strike you practiced 1,000 times.

Magick / Re: Magick: Is Magick real?
« on: November 29, 2015, 12:50:46 PM »
This thread is getting really amusing.

Honestly I think the greatest division among occultists is the debate over whether Gods and spirits/demons/angels/ect are real or just creations of our own minds/the collective consciousness/whatever.

Personally I have experienced more success than I could have dreamed of when I decided these things are not real, but this perspective doesn't prevent me from understanding those who do believe in them and recognizing where they are on the spectrum of human existence.


Helping those individuals, when they ask for it, can be frustrating as I tend to try to empower the individual to take ownership over their reality (and the ether/aether/whatever) because they generally believe if they find the right spirit to evoke then all their problems will be solved and its only a matter of telling them which ancient name to chant and which sigil to ejaculate on. From my perspective they tend to always think there is an "easier" way and if they find it then more power to them, but they generally show a bit of disrespect in the process.

I'm not perfect either and I can be disrespectful towards those who treat me the same way, but I'm trying to be a better person everyday.

Hellblazer, if I'm good at this, and I like to think I am; you are a soldier at heart or have a very close relationship to the military. Much respect, I see a lot of myself in you.

The cancer link was priceless. I like to think of humanity itself as a single organism and some of our cells seem bound and determined to kill the whole thing. Its quite sad and they have a strong presence in the occult, especially among those who buy into the majority of conspiracy theories which choose to believe themselves as slaves of the illuminati like humanity hasn't evolved past 6th century politics.

So I think we all agree magick is real and takes a great amount of effort to realize and effectively use. Our methods may differ, but ultimately we need to come together if we are ever going to be taken seriously. I'm willing to compromise. Even though I think 72 demons are a bit ridiculous, they are great at recruiting the youth and capturing our imaginations.


Magick / The Emerald Tablets of Thoth the Atlantean
« on: November 29, 2015, 12:02:17 AM »
Anyone familiar with this translation of the Emerald Tablet?

The idea that Thoth was an Atlantean doesn't surprise me, but I'm highly suspicious of the authenticity of these "translations" of tablets that supposedly don't exist.

The link also states that these translations are a part of the modern corpus hermeticum, which I've read, and am currently failing to find the correlation.

Magick / Re: Magick: Is Magick real?
« on: November 28, 2015, 08:46:57 PM »
This kind of thinking leads to questions like.... Does Magick really work? Or is Magick Real?

I share your frustration Hellblazer

Magick / Pythagoras and the Secret Meaning of Numbers
« on: November 28, 2015, 07:42:32 PM »
Something I thought the forum would appreciate, pulled from my own site; overall an excerpt from Manly P. Hall's "Secret Teachings of All Ages" with some commentary......

According to Manly P Hall in "The Secret Teachings of All Ages"...

Concerning the secret significance of numbers there has been much speculation. Though many interesting discoveries have been made, it may be safely said that with the death of Pythagoras the great key to this science was lost.

The secret meanings of numbers are important to a magician because mathematics seems to be the language of the universe itself.

In Manly P Hall's "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" he discusses the Pythagorean Cult and the specific relations they held with numbers.

I will focus on the first 10 numbers (monad through the decad) since they make up the foundation.

Monad - 1

Monad--1--is so called because it remains always in the same condition--that is, separate from multitude. Its attributes are as follows: It is called mind, because the mind is stable and has preeminence; hermaphrodism, because it is both male and female; odd and even, for being added to the even it makes odd, and to the odd, even; God, because it is the beginning and end of all, but itself has neither beginning nor end; good, for such is the nature of God; the receptacle of matter, because it produces the duad, which is essentially material.

By the Pythagoreans monad was called chaos, obscurity, chasm, Tartarus, Styx, abyss, Lethe, Atlas, Axis, Morpho (a name for Venus), and Tower or Throne of Jupiter, because of the great power which abides in the center of the universe and controls the circular motion of the planers about itself. Monad is also called germinal reason, because it is the origin of all the thoughts in the universe. Other names given to it were: Apollo, because of its relation to the sun; Prometheus, because he brought man light; Pyralios, one who exists in fire; geniture, because without it no number can exist; substance, because substance is primary; cause of truth; and constitution of symphony: all these because it is the primordial one.

Between greater and lesser the monad is equal; between intention and remission it is middle; in multitude it is mean; and in time it is now, because

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eternity knows neither past nor future. It is called Jupiter, because he is Father and head of the gods; Vesta, the fire of the home, because it is located in the midst of the universe and remains there inclining to no side as a dot in a circle; form, because it circumscribes, comprehends, and terminates; love, concord, and piety, because it is indivisible. Other symbolic names for the monad are ship, chariot, Proteus (a god capable of changing his form), Mnemosyne, and Polyonymous (having many names).

Duad - 2

The following symbolic names were given to the duad--2--because it has been divided, and is two rather than one; and when there are two, each is opposed to the other: genius, evil, darkness, inequality, instability, movability, boldness, fortitude, contention, matter, dissimilarity, partition between multitude and monad, defect, shapelessness, indefiniteness, indeterminate ness, harmony, tolerance, root, feet of fountain-abounding idea, top, Phanes, opinion, fallacy, alterity, diffidence, impulse, death, motion, generation, mutation, division, longitude, augmentation, composition, communion, misfortune, sustentation, imposition, marriage, soul, and science.

In his book, Numbers, W. Wynn Westcott says of the duad: "it was called 'Audacity,' from its being the earliest number to separate itself from the Divine One; from the 'Adytum of God-nourished Silence,' as the Chaldean oracles say."

As the monad is the father, so the duad is the mother; therefore, the duad has certain points in common with the goddesses Isis, Rhea (Jove's mother), Phrygia, Lydia, Dindymene (Cybele), and Ceres; Erato (one of the Muses); Diana, because the moon is forked; Dictynna, Venus, Dione, Cytherea; Juno, because she is both wife and sister of Jupiter; and Maia, the mother of Mercury.

While the monad is the symbol of wisdom, the duad is the symbol of ignorance, for in it exists the sense of separateness--which sense is the beginning of ignorance. The duad, however, is also the mother of wisdom, for ignorance--out of the nature of itself--invariably gives birth to wisdom.

The Pythagoreans revered the monad but despised the duad, because it was the symbol of polarity. By the power of the duad the deep was created in contradistinction to the heavens. The deep mirrored the heavens and became the symbol of illusion, for the below was merely a reflection of the above. The below was called maya, the illusion, the sea, the Great Void, and to symbolize it the Magi of Persia carried mirrors. From the duad arose disputes and contentions, until by bringing the monad between the duad, equilibrium was reestablished by the Savior-God, who took upon Himself the form of a number and was crucified between two thieves for the sins of men.

Triad - 3

The triad--3--is the first number actually odd (monad not always being considered a number). It is the first equilibrium of unities; therefore, Pythagoras said that Apollo gave oracles from a tripod, and advised offer of libation three times. The keywords to the qualities of the triad are friendship, peace, justice, prudence, piety, temperance, and virtue. The following deities partake of the principles of the triad: Saturn (ruler of time), Latona, Cornucopię, Ophion (the great serpent), Thetis, Hecate, Polyhymnia (a Muse), Pluto, Triton, President of the Sea, Tritogenia, Achelous, and the Faces, Furies, and Graces. This number is called wisdom, because men organize the present, foresee the future, and benefit by the experiences of the fast. It is cause of wisdom and understanding. The triad is the number of knowledge--music, geometry, and astronomy, and the science of the celestials and terrestrials. Pythagoras taught that the cube of this number had the power of the lunar circle.

The sacredness of the triad and its symbol--the triangle--is derived from the fact that it is made up of the monad and the duad. The monad is the symbol of the Divine Father and the duad of the Great Mother. The triad being made of these two is therefore androgynous and is symbolic of the fact that God gave birth to His worlds out of Himself, who in His creative aspect is always symbolized by the triangle. The monad passing into the duad was thus capable of becoming the parent of progeny, for the duad was the womb of Meru, within which the world was incubated and within which it still exists in embryo.

Tetrad - 4

The tetrad--4--was esteemed by the Pythagoreans as the primogenial number, the root of all things, the fountain of Nature and the most perfect number. All tetrads are intellectual; they have an emergent order and encircle the world as the Empyreum passes through it. Why the Pythagoreans expressed God as a tetrad is explained in a sacred discourse ascribed to Pythagoras, wherein God is called the Number of Numbers. This is because the decad, or 10, is composed of 1, 2, 3, and 4. The number 4 is symbolic of God because it is symbolic of the first four numbers. Moreover, the tetrad is the center of the week, being halfway between 1 and 7. The tetrad is also the first geometric solid.

Pythagoras maintained that the soul of man consists of a tetrad, the four powers of the soul being mind, science, opinion, and sense. The tetrad connects all beings, elements, numbers, and seasons; nor can anything be named which does not depend upon the tetractys. It is the Cause and Maker of all things, the intelligible God, Author of celestial and sensible good, Plutarch interprets this tetractys, which he said was also called the world, to be 36, consisting of the first four odd numbers added to the first four even numbers, thus:

1 + 3 +5 +7 = 16

2 + 4 + 6 + 8 = 20

16 + 20 = 36

Keywords given to the tetrad are impetuosity, strength, virility, two-mothered, and the key keeper of Nature, because the universal constitution cannot be without it. It is also called harmony and the first profundity. The following deities partook of the nature of the tetrad: Hercules, Mercury, Vulcan, Bacchus, and Urania (one of the Muses).

The triad represents the primary colors and the major planets, while the tetrad represents the secondary colors and the minor planets. From the first triangle come forth the seven spirits, symbolized by a triangle and a square. These together form the Masonic apron.

Pentad - 5

The pentad--5--is the union of an odd and an even number (3 and 2). Among the Greeks, the pentagram was a sacred symbol of light, health, and vitality. It also symbolized the fifth element--ether--because it is free from the disturbances of the four lower elements. It is called equilibrium, because it divides the perfect number 10 into two equal parts.

The pentad is symbolic of Nature, for, when multiplied by itself it returns into itself, just as grains of wheat, starting in the form of seed, pass through Nature's processes and reproduce the seed of the wheat as the ultimate form of their own growth. Other numbers multiplied by themselves produce other numbers, but only 5 and 6 multiplied by themselves represent and retain their original number as the last figure in their products.

The pentad represents all the superior and inferior beings. It is sometimes referred to as the hierophant, or the priest of the Mysteries, because of its connection with the spiritual ethers, by means of which mystic development is attained. Keywords of the pentad are reconciliation, alternation, marriage, immortality, cordiality, Providence, and sound. Among the deities who partook of the nature of the pentad were Pallas, Nemesis, Bubastia (Bast), Venus, Androgynia, Cytherea, and the messengers of Jupiter.

The tetrad (the elements) plus the monad equals the pentad. The Pythagoreans taught that the elements of earth, fire, air, and water were permeated by a substance called ether--the basis of vitality and life. Therefore, they chose the five-pointed star, or pentagram, as the symbol of vitality, health, and interpenetration.

It was customary for the philosophers to conceal the element of earth under the symbol of a dragon, and many of the heroes of antiquity were told to go forth and slay the dragon. Hence, they drove their sword (the monad) into the body of the dragon (the tetrad). This resulted in the formation of the pentad, a symbol of the victory of the spiritual nature over the material nature. The four elements are symbolized in the early Biblical writings as the four rivers that poured out of Garden of Eden. The elements themselves are under the control of the composite Cherubim of Ezekiel.

Hexad - 6

The Pythagoreans held the hexad--6--to represent, as Clement of Alexandria conceived, the creation of the world according to both the prophets and the ancient Mysteries. It was called by the Pythagoreans the perfection of all the parts. This number was particularly sacred to Orpheus, and also to the Fate, Lachesis, and the Muse, Thalia. It was called the form of forms, the articulation of the universe, and the maker of the soul.

Among the Greeks, harmony and the soul were considered to be similar in nature, because all souls are harmonic. The hexad is also the symbol of marriage, because it is formed by the union of two triangles, one masculine and the other feminine. Among the keywords given to the hexad are: time, for it is the measure of duration; panacea, because health is equilibrium, and the hexad is a balance number; the world, because the world, like the hexad, is often seen to consist of contraries by harmony; omnisufficient, because its parts are sufficient for totality (3 +2 + 1 = 6); unwearied, because it contains the elements of immortality.

Heptad - 7

By the Pythagoreans the heptad--7--was called "worthy of veneration." It was held to be the number of religion, because man is controlled by seven celestial spirits to whom it is proper for him to make offerings. It was called the number of life, because it was believed that human creatures born in the seventh month of embryonic life usually lived, but those born in the eighth month often died. One author called it the Motherless Virgin, Minerva, because it was nor born of a mother but out of the crown, or the head of the Father, the monad. Keywords of the heptad are fortune, occasion, custody, control, government, judgment, dreams, voices, sounds, and that which leads all things to their end. Deities whose attributes were expressed by the heptad were Ęgis, Osiris, Mars, and Cleo (one of the Muses).

Among many ancient nations the heptad is a sacred number. The Elohim of the Jews were supposedly seven in number. They were the Spirits of the Dawn, more commonly known as the Archangels controlling the planets. The seven Archangels, with the three spirits controlling the sun in its threefold aspect, constitute the 10, the sacred Pythagorean decad. The mysterious Pythagorean tetractys, or four rows of dots, increasing from 1 to 4, was symbolic of the stages of creation. The great Pythagorean truth that all things in Nature are regenerated through the decad, or 10, is subtly preserved in Freemasonry through these grips being effected by the uniting of 10 fingers, five on the hand of each person.

The 3 (spirit, mind, and soul) descend into the 4 (the world), the sum being the 7, or the mystic nature of man, consisting of a threefold spiritual body and a fourfold material form. These are symbolized by the cube, which has six surfaces and a mysterious seventh point within. The six surfaces are the directions: north, east, south, west, up, and down; or, front, back, right, left, above, and below; or again, earth, fire, air, water, spirit, and matter. In the midst of these stands the 1, which is the upright figure of man, from whose center in the cube radiate six pyramids. From this comes the great occult axiom: "The center is the father of the directions, the dimensions, and the distances."

The heptad is the number of the law, because it is the number of the Makers of Cosmic law, the Seven Spirits before the Throne.

Ogdoad - 8

The ogdoad--8--was sacred because it was the number of the first cube, which form had eight corners, and was the only evenly-even number under 10 (1-2-4-8-4-2-1). Thus, the 8 is divided into two 4's, each 4 is divided into two 2's, and each 2 is divided into two 1's, thereby reestablishing the monad. Among the keywords of the ogdoad are love, counsel, prudence, law, and convenience. Among the divinities partaking of its nature were Panarmonia, Rhea, Cibele, Cadmęa, Dindymene, Orcia, Neptune, Themis, and Euterpe (a Muse).

The ogdoad was a mysterious number associated with the Eleusinian Mysteries of Greece and the Cabiri. It was called the little holy number. It derived its form partly from the twisted snakes on the Caduceus of Hermes and partly from the serpentine motion of the celestial bodies; possibly also from the moon's nodes.

Ennead - 9

The ennead--9--was the first square of an odd number (3x3). It was associated with failure and shortcoming because it fell short of the perfect number 10 by one. It was called the called the number of man, because of the nine months of his embryonic life. Among its keywords are ocean and horizon, because to the ancients these were boundless. The ennead is the limitless number because there is nothing beyond it but the infinite 10. It was called boundary and limitation, because it gathered all numbers within itself. It was called the sphere of the air, because it surrounded the numbers as air surrounds the earth, Among the gods and goddesses who partook in greater or less degree of its nature were Prometheus, Vulcan, Juno, the sister and wife of Jupiter, Pęan, and Aglaia, Tritogenia, Curetes, Proserpine, Hyperion, and Terpsichore (a Muse).

The 9 was looked upon as evil, because it was an inverted 6. According to the Eleusinian Mysteries, it was the number of the spheres through which the consciousness passed on its way to birth. Because of its close resemblance to the spermatozoon, the 9 has been associated with germinal life.

Decad - 10

The decad--10--according to the Pythagoreans, is the greatest of numbers, not only because it is the tetractys (the 10 dots) but because it comprehends all arithmetic and harmonic proportions. Pythagoras said that 10 is the nature of number, because all nations reckon to it and when they arrive at it they return to the monad. The decad was called both heaven and the world, because the former includes the latter. Being a perfect number, the decad was applied by the Pythagoreans to those things relating to age, power, faith, necessity, and the power of memory. It was also called unwearied, because, like God, it was tireless. The Pythagoreans divided the heavenly bodies into ten orders. They also stated that the decad perfected all numbers and comprehended within itself the nature of odd and even, moved and unmoved, good and ill. They associated its power with the following deities: Atlas (for it carried the numbers on its shoulders), Urania, Mnemosyne, the Sun, Phanes, and the One God.

Study the meanings of these numbers and you can see them represent themselves in all of life and experience.

While the power of the decimal system is debatable, there is something to be said about the correlations found in reality.

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