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Theories, Articles, and Philosophy / Re: Religion and cosmology
« on: January 12, 2017, 03:27:15 PM »
The topic of Religion and cosmology is interesting Akenu. Thank you for posting.

I think that spiritual/mythic interpretations of the heavens gave us the mythologies and superstitions we commonly associated with ancient cosmology. This transitioned into the science of astronomy as scientific observations began replacing older interpretations of the heavens.  Those ancient beliefs were still based on observation though. They just pegged their observations onto existing cultural beliefs so we got all these different mythic cosmologies I guess. It seems though that whether the cosmological model is heliocentric or geocentric really comes down to how accurately you can observe external phenomena and we know that even primitive civilizations where capable of very accurate astronomical observations and calculations. However, from the perspective of the average man... well doesn't everything seem to revolve around him lol :) 

Ultimately when discussing religion you are discussing belief. Realistically you can believe anything. This is fine until believe is accepted as truth. That is called delusion. 
I agree with you Akenu in that religion is probably as old as humanity itself. That seems pretty realistic. Yes Abrahamic religions have been around a long time - they are not the only religions on the block. All religions have the same essential fault of being dualistic in some sense. I am here, big boss is out there, he's on my side, I do what the rules say and all is well with the world. I don't personally buy any of the creation myths presented by religions these days. I used to but now my mind screams bullshit every time I hear it.

Some thoughts of mine on religious violence - I feel you are right in that humans are violent. When you watch the news and see trucks plowing into people or people shooting and blowing one another up - this is direct proof that the human mind - irrespective of race, religion or historical context - is capable of committing acts pf shocking brutality. History hasn't changed that. The ignorant human mind is the source of all the evils in the world. Pure and simple. Religion is a product of the mind Akenu. Yes it is culturally and historically specific - but it is still a product of the same human mind as you and me and capable of the same atrocities. There is no separation of the two, and some religions are more peaceful that others Akenu - that's a fact.

Deities - not a practicing occultist so can not really offer anything here. Your explanation of egregores is probably on the mark and really deserves its own thread. Have you read Inside a Magical Lodge by John Michael Greer? He does cover that topic under lodge consecration. Interesting stuff. A human made god would have human imperfections wouldn't it? Sounds more like collective subconscious.
Where there is life there is death. Man fears death because it highlights the universal truth of impermanence and the ephemeral nature of the world, and secondly because it directly undermines the delusion of a permanent self or sense of 'I' which is the root cause of mans suffering - maintaining a delusion like that in the face of something as profoundly universal and indiscriminate as death - taking King and commoner alike - is enough to make anyone neurotic don't you think? :)
I like astrology. I like old astrology. I think that the heavens have subtle effects on the earth and its inhabitants. You only have to watch the moon move the ocean each tide to see that so I think there is something scientific there. I don't really believe astrologers though.

I agree Akenu - drop the superstitions and look directly into the mind - that is were the answer lies :) Nice article.

Spirituality / Public Rainbow body teachings
« on: January 10, 2017, 05:08:55 PM »
Presented publicly, freely and without oath or secrecy to anyone who is interested.  Rainbow body practice. Emaho!

Heard of Ray. Didn"t know he was starting a school  :) Mark Rasmus is another fellow worth a look at based in Thailand. Then there is Martin Faulks in uk, Rawn Clark... With so many quality learning tools for Bardon now I'm surprised there aren't more people considering setting up study groups based on iih. With chat, e-mail and Skype etc.

Body Energy Arts / Re: Chakra removal
« on: July 11, 2016, 09:02:37 PM »
This still implies that they can be changed/lost/destroyed which is what I am have trouble with (no offense intended Steve). My personal experience is that they are centers on/in the body through which one can access the deeper parts of your being. I don't know anything about constructs - lets be clear about this. I practice tantric yoga and am not familiar with psi/construct models. When I had empowerment there was no creating of chakra. I had a discussion with my teacher about this. You awaken a seed of non-dual / enlightened mind-as-diety which is cultivated with a mantra. It is not like receiving 20 dollars from your teacher. The guru embodies the deity and you you resonate with it. In other words tantric deities are nondual aspects of your own mind. Its about 'waking up'. This same facet is awakened in the initiates mind and this is classed as empowerment. Chakra permanently open as they become non-dual through the cultivation of the deity/mantra. The human energy model that my linage works with is one that is already present within the human bodymind. The chakras are seen as levels or grounds of pure awareness which connect with different levels of self. Like I said - I am not a construct guy :)

Yes a qualified master can give blessings, empowerment and transmission. The taking of karma can be done by any one past a certain level of attainment however. This is because taking karma is a natural mechanism of purifying the interface with Krishna Yoni/kungzhi/alaya/ground (collective subconscious interface). It is a passive process on the yogi's behalf however Masters can do so actively. Once one reaches Bodhisattva levels of grounds (7+ bhumi) then one naturally starts taking on surrounding karma which automatically is liberated within your non-dual personal body mind. Regarding Mahasiddhas they can do all sorts of neat stuff.

Body Energy Arts / Re: Chakra removal
« on: July 10, 2016, 11:24:23 PM »
Energy systems are maps - and there are no universal maps! It is all dictated by aim, tradition and observations about the subtle body. From personal experience I can say that chakra's are used as points of access to the various levels of self. I do disagree that they are created or some how acquired externally - if that where the case then they could be destroyed or lost which simply isn't the case from my experience. Awareness is a multidimensional thing which is expressed three dimensionaly through the body. Chakras are therefore points on and in the body used to gain access to the desired level of self. That is why mantras a frequently chanted at chakra points (because you are trying to introduce the energy encoded in that mantra into that level of being). I have heard of people using Chakras as a sort of reservoir of specific energy which is tapped or used as focal points for cultivating various states of consciousness etc - that may be true of different traditions and I am not arguing with that - however that is not my experience.

Body Energy Arts / Re: Chakra removal
« on: June 30, 2016, 12:03:33 AM »
Which chakras? There are different systems of chakras used by different systems/traditions of yoga. And yeah they are just an interface or center of awareness in the subtle body - you would somehow have to alter in a permanent and new way the entire human organism to somehow remove a chakra. There are literally hundreds of centers in the energetic body of man - in the body, in the limbs, above the head below the feet.  I really can't see how this is even possible.

Questions & Suggestions / Re: Changing username to something different
« on: April 30, 2016, 04:29:06 PM »
I would like to change my user name please - Can I pm you or a Mod?

Spirituality / Re: Why seek enlightenment?
« on: April 30, 2016, 04:15:18 PM »
I like the direction your taking Steve - however I must add that you will never permanently "break the subconscious reactionism" with out seeing through the notion of a permanent self first.

Emotional reactions are self referencing because we ordinarily perceive reality in terms of subject/object. When one becomes awakened the subject (the I that perceives) is permanently removed from the awareness equation. All those pesky habitual reactions we pain ourselves over are no longer self-referencing because we have seen that there was never a fixed "I" to begin with. Instead of them happening to "me" we see them for what they are - a collection of impulses which respond to situations unconsciously with emotions and impulses to act in certain ways. We can then begin to permanently rid ourselves of them through karmic purification practices (such as insight practices, tantric yoga etc).

Only when self has been seen through can we permanently rid ourselves of the karmic groves which manifest as habit mind.

Spirituality / Re: Why seek enlightenment?
« on: April 29, 2016, 03:46:55 PM »
Enlightenment is the permanent end of suffering - isn't that good enough reason? Enlightenment is also referred to as Karmic Purification. When you become awakened/self-realized (have seen through a permanent "I" or "self") you then purify your karma through various practices and become naturally liberated as a result. There is then no reason to reincarnate because the causes of reincarnation (karmic imprints) have been removed from the subconscious. By assuming reincarnation is a fact your kind of answering our own question here - eventually dissatisfaction with death and re-birth will produce the motivation to practice.  As to what motivates people personally? Well only you can answer that yourself ;) Death and impermanence is a powerful one though.

How does Enlightenment improves ones life and that of others? Post enlightenment is when you have completely removed all karmic stains etc and achieved mental purification - in other words ordinary conditional mind has been completely deconstructed - the show is over. In its place is open natural spacious awareness. In other word you embody open awareness. One of the qualities of the enlightened mind is compassion. This manifests as compassionate action because you are also free from emotional barriers to action such as fear. At some point post enlightenment you also begin burning up other peoples karma which is of great benefit to sentient beings. This is because you begin to integrate your own awareness into the collective sub-conscious of all beings. As far as recalling past lives this is a natural outcome of most spiritual practices which burn through karma. So by asking "How would it be more noble to spend hours in meditation seeking enlightenment, rather than spending this time making the world a better place?" it helps to see right action in the world as a natural outcome extension of meditation.

"Since we're here, why not enjoy the things which can only be enjoyed here, and let us enjoy the spiritual worlds after death?" Because your day to day experience is clouded by your own self delusion essentially - the more you practice the more you purify awareness which leads to greater mindfulness of daily activities. which leads to greater enjoyment of daily activities/nowness/ etc. Be here now as they say. Ultimately you are right in that there is a point where you no longer need to practice because meditation without object is a natural state of mind - in which case all experiences are non-dual mediation. You can act mindfully now in whatever you do though :) you don;t have to be enlightened lol. In regards to death I ask - Who dies?

This is my take.

Hello and Goodbye / Re: introducing myself
« on: December 08, 2015, 12:39:50 PM »
Hello eiffel. Welcome aboard :) Have some A-grade  :cow: On the house  :wink:

Magick / Re: Magick: Is Magick real?
« on: December 02, 2015, 11:42:46 PM »
@Ruhdelen100 Can you please pm me those links? I wouldn't mind checking out some living mercury :)

Hello and Goodbye / Re: Hiya!
« on: December 01, 2015, 08:51:59 PM »
Welcome aboard Magari. Have a cow on me :)  :cow:

Projection / Re: What is the best book for beginnners?
« on: November 30, 2015, 11:16:28 AM »
Thank you very much Shinichi and Akenu for the suggestions.
I am big on meditation, so will be following up the dynamic psi and thaumaturgy suggestion. I tried Bardon years ago and gave it up for various reasons. What he outlines in PME is really what I would like to explore someday. I like oldschool theurgy. Bye the way just grabbed some of your books Akenu. They're good.

Projection / Re: What is the best book for beginnners?
« on: November 29, 2015, 10:58:56 PM »
I'm curious, Akenu, Shinichi, what would be the best entry point for evocation for someone with no experience? Specifically astral/mental wandering, plane/sphere work and evocation of elemental & planetary beings etc?

Spirituality / Re: Good books on Buddha and Buddhism?
« on: November 29, 2015, 05:28:55 PM »
If you want practical dharma type material I recommend:

Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha by Ingram, Daniel M
Pointing Out the Great Way by Brown, Daniel P
Anything by Jack Kornfield, Kenneth Folk, Dzogchen Ponlop, Lama Surya Das, Chogyam Ngakpa, Yongdzin Lopon Tenzi Namdak, John Myrdhin Reynolds and Chogyal Namkhai Norbu just to name a few.

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