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Psionics / psionics, a gift or a tool?
« on: December 17, 2006, 03:54:00 PM »
This question has two parts to it.
1) Do you believe that anyone (with practice etc.) can achieve any ability, or do only certain people have the ability to achieve certain abilities? In other words A) can anyone do psionics? and B) Is each person governed towards particular abilities based around their personality, or their soul, or their level of energy or whatever could possibly be the cause, or can any psionic practitioner do for instance, telekinesis. In addition, can one person through hard laborious work move an object with their mind perhaps an inch at most while having amazing telepathy with very little practice? Thus having a natural psychic ability, and if you believe this is because they are a "natural psychic", does that mean that the rules are different for people born with an innate understanding of this trade?

2) Is a psychic ability something obtained, or something given? Through your thoughts on whether it is obtained or given, does your answer give the ability certain rules or limitations? For instance, if it is something given is it bad to use it for something that you believe to be morally wrong because it was a gift? Or is this OK because it was given to you with full understanding of who it was being given to? If it is a tool does this make it a secular phenomenon meant for anyone and thus can be used anyway?     

Psionics / Re: Negative Effects During Meditation
« on: December 07, 2006, 06:56:41 PM »
I basically stared at my head in a mirror for about 10 minutes each day for about a month. Within the first day or two I started seeing colorless light emit from my body, and after about a week of doing it I was able to percieve color. It took about a month to be able to move my eyes and still see it, before that whenever my eyes moved at all the aura vanished from my sight. It should also get progressively easier (and thus faster) as time goes on. I suppose around a month to 1 1/2 months I could see the auras almost instantly. Now, some 7 years later (give or take a year) I pretty much always see auras to some degree. I suppose the trick is try not to think about it, just gaze in one spot for a long period of time without really focusing on it.

Psionics / Curious
« on: December 06, 2006, 10:12:38 PM »
Do you (for lack of a better title), practice only one skill or multiple skills? Do you see all abilities root as energy manipulation, i.e. related to each other on a fundamental level, or separate? Or do you see them connected in a different way? How do you personally practice your skill(s)? And finally, if you chose a particular ability to master, if it isn't too personal of a question, why did you choose that particular ability?

Psionics / Negative Effects During Meditation
« on: December 06, 2006, 10:06:22 PM »
I am curious if anyone else has experienced this, and perhaps has an idea of why it occurs. Whenever I go into meditation it is usual for the entire room to be covered in aura, or rather it becomes much easier to see all of the auras of the room with my naked eye. However, when I go too deep in meditation all of the objects in my vision shake. I bring up the prior because if I don't stop when that occurs the latter occurs. Now obviously I don't mean that the objects are physically shaking, but they appear to be shaking, and if I close my eyes it feels similar to when you drink too much alcohol. Usually my vision remains troublesome for about 30 minutes. My family has no history of schizophrenia, or other related diseases and this problem does not occur if I have not been meditating.


Psionics / Re: Things to do while in class
« on: November 30, 2006, 05:31:53 PM »
Err there actually are cultures where it is perfectly fine to take advantage of others and/or killing another person. The Yanomamö for instance praise their children for beating their mother with a club if the mother gives them an order that they don't want to follow. There is also an account that they steal or poke holes in canoes owned by anthropologists simply to see if the anthropologist will retaliate, if they do they are regarded positively. They also steal women from neiboring tribes and are basicly in an eternal war. Even their games tend to involve battles such as fighting with 9ft clubs.

It is true that  most  cultures don't follow such a brutal lifestyle, but it might not be good to say that all cultures follow this philosophy. Especially if you look at older cultures, such as tribes from Mesoamerica. Their strongest god in the later tribes (Aztecs, late toltecs etc.) was Tezcatlipoca who was basiclaly the lord of chaos. In fact, he has strong similiarities to Lucifer, and Loki. Or the flayed god huizichpoctli who convinced the Mexicas to flay a princess of Toltec decent and then wear her skin to a feast in which the father was to attend as a guest of honor. Wierd. . .anyways yeah rant aside, it is important to not make too broad of a generalization, though I will agree that most modern cultures do disagree with killing or using someone.   

Psionics / Re: Things to do while in class
« on: November 28, 2006, 09:27:52 PM »
Eh, I have a few minutes to spare and somehow wound up looking through the forum again.

Before I begin let me assure you that I am neither fighting for, or against, the existence of karma. My knowledge on it is not extensive and I have mainly read about it through Hinduism. In fact, my knowledge on magic is rather lacking, which is sad because I have the resources, just not the motivation. I do however, have some understanding and experience with "psionics".

What concerns me is the strength of your belief is rather reflective upon my own when I was a few years younger. That is not to say that a firm belief is bad, but that without clear eyes other people's truth can apear rather foggy. Please do not take that as an insult, or an attack, but simply as a mild observation from a naive college student.

To begin, I would like you to think about belief. You use religions as a prime example of the existance of karma, for karma is in many religions. This is a good point, karma is not an idea that has been created on the forums or in new age theories but has existed for quite some time. Yet, religion in itself is a belief. To say that karma is fact is in a sense the same as saying the existance of god(s) is fact. One could say that everyday he/she feels a presence above them in the sky, and once through revelation they heard the voice coming from that very same sky. This perhaps proves the existance of God to themselves, but not to all. Furthermore, there are many other reasons why they are feeling that way, a dark yet realistic possibility is schizophrenia.

Your primary reason, of course, is not religion. I believe you more mentioned religion actually. Your primary reason is through experience, observation, and if it is as you say, noteworthy skill. Yet still there are issues with it being considered fact. Let us assume that your experience will be enough for the proof of karma. For experience is a personal thing and there is no point in saying that it is not proven because of your experience alone, that would be a frivolous attack on the existence of karma. As I said before, my goal is not to sway your opinion, but to give you insight on other possibilities.

Two possibilities come to mind when I think about personal experience in this context. 1) You say that you have experience with manipulating energy, for that is the core essence of magic and psychic. As a person grows comfortable with their energy it will ever so often act subconsciously. Thus if you have a strong belief in karma, it is possible that your energy will react to that belief and bestow some form of karma upon you. In other words, if you act negatively your guilt, or fear, or worry, or simply belief will cause your energy to bestow the same fate on you. If you act benevolently than your aura will grant you some form of positive outcome. This is similiar to minor psychokinesis. 2) You say that you can gauge how your day will be when you wake up. Though I will not argue that there is a possibility that what you are sensing is in fact karma, there is another possibility as well. Precognition for instance does not always come to people through clarvoyant visions or dreams, some can simply feel. In other words, it is possible that you simply know how your day will be when you wake up, throwing us more into pre-determinism than karma. Or as stated in option 1, it is possible that you can feel the change that you've brought upon yourself, giving yourself a hint of the coming day.

As I said before it is not that I am argueing with you, I am simply trying to show other possibilities.

Kindly shakes your hand,


Hello and Goodbye / See you
« on: November 13, 2006, 10:43:10 PM »
I think I'm getting addicted to the internet, since I check it more than the healthy amount each day. The healthy amount being one, of course. So I think I'm going to head out for a while and do some self reflection, try to get down a few things etc. If anything interesting comes out of it I'll try to say something about it. That sounds a little arrogant. . .well, whatever. Everyone has their moments right? In any event I'm feeling a little lost, and I think it would be best to leave the screen.

Most likely I'll be back again, in a few months or earlier. So, as usual if I don't respond to some post directed at me than I apologize, it isn't that I don't care, it is simply that I don't exist.

See You,

Body Energy Arts / Re: To all Martial artists!
« on: November 12, 2006, 07:39:50 PM »
The strange thing is that my first post wasn't in response to you but to the original poster. . .multiple other people mentioned the same thing in this thread, that it's good to have a instructor. For instance both Kobok and Arinil said something similar.

"by the way you paint a nasty  picture for people on this forum by acting like you do i dont think you are as smart as you see yourself"
To me that is saying I'm an idiot, I'm not sure how else to take such a comment.

Sorry if I pissed you off, but in this world you need to be able to take a step back and consider situations. You can't just get angry all the time and expect people to give you what you want, be it words or otherwise. If you have a bad temper than that's unfortunate, but you should consider other people's feelings and opinions before acting. It's just simple advice.

Body Energy Arts / Re: To all Martial artists!
« on: November 12, 2006, 10:08:12 AM »
(Hypothetically) If you were to speak to an aikido dojo master and he told you to read "the book" to get more of a grasp for the art, he probably wouldn't tell you to stop going to the dojo.

I simply stated that it would be unwise to learn from a book without any prior training at all. If you disagree than OK, we'll just have to agree to disagree, like old people :).

I'm not sure why the line claiming me an idiot, and a nasty one a that, is in quotes. I actually am a little curious about that. . .

To be honest, I'm not on this forum to fight. I don't do flame wars, and I only follow up with arguments that have merit. If you begin to belittle me with no intent to discuss actual things I will not continue responding to this thread.

Magick / Re: Mental Breakdown
« on: November 01, 2006, 03:36:30 PM »
I am certainly no doctor, but a friend of mine has schizophrenia in her family. She said that generally schizophrenia skips generations. So if the grandfather had it the grandson would have it but not the son. Don't take that as anymore than hear-say but it might be something to research in your off time.

Body Energy Arts / Re: To all Martial artists!
« on: October 28, 2006, 03:17:44 PM »
i do practice martial arts formally, i dont see why your so judgemental.

If you have prior experience in a dojo, than you do not apply to my statement. If you believe what I said to be judgemental than I will not argue with you, but think about your knowledge before learning from someone. Do you really think you would understand what you are doing to the same level just from a book? Learning of the history and philosophy behind martial arts through trustworthy books is very good. I simply don't know why you would want to learn martial arts from a book when there are knowledgable individuals happy to teach you. 

Martial Arts / Re: Capoeira Question
« on: October 27, 2006, 09:55:36 AM »
Alrighty, I'lll try to figure it out during open gym or something.

Martial Arts / Capoeira Question
« on: October 25, 2006, 07:54:24 AM »
Can anyone here give me tips on how to do the s-dobrado enchaixada? (going over with queda-de-rins, not falling into queda-de-rins after getting in the air)

Body Energy Arts / Re: To all Martial artists!
« on: October 24, 2006, 03:58:56 PM »
If you've never practiced martial arts before than I suggest you spend some time in a dojo. Most likely if you don't have an understanding of the foundation of what you are learning you will probably practice the techniques improperly. It's one thing to read in a book how to perform say Juppon Amote, it's quite another to see it performed and be told what you are doing wrong (and right).

Body Energy Arts / Re: Lin Kong Jing...
« on: October 23, 2006, 05:21:14 PM »
I believe that the Paul Dong book says in about 4-5 years of practicing chi kung about 2 hours everyday will give you results for empty force. Good things come to those who wait I guess.

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