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Title: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Juggalo on August 12, 2005, 03:53:19 PM
Hey everyone, I hope this is the right place to post this.  I was watching this show recently that was talking about mysteries of the world and the show mentioned 13 ancient crystal skulls that are supposed to hold special powers and/or special information.  On the net I have read people calling them the computers of ancient people.  Sorry I am sort of going off topic, I just wanted to know who else has heard of them and what are your thoughts on the Crysyal Skulls.  Thanks.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 12, 2005, 05:29:45 PM
They're not meant to be possible to make? supposedly cut against their axis so they should crack but don't?
http://www.mendhak.com/paranormal/mystery/show.php?id=25 (http://www.mendhak.com/paranormal/mystery/show.php?id=25)
Maybe they were made with PSI? makes just as much sense as any other explanation, seeing technology has no answers how.

Hmm, I want me the rose quartz one.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Shadowx089 on August 12, 2005, 05:41:17 PM
ITS ABOUT TIME SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT THE 13 SKULLS. I forgot how it goes but didnt we only find 4 right now. It been like 5 years sence someone talk about this. Well i'm just glad someone found some info on this.

and i'll get one......somehow :smilie:
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Frozen on August 12, 2005, 08:58:41 PM


There are many more than thirteen crystal skulls across the world these days. However, there are thirteen notable skulls that are made of different kinds of crystal. The first complete and most famous is the Mitchell-Hedges skull that was found in an ancient Mayan temple. It's cut of only one piece of crystal and it's cut in a way that scientists are saying it should have split into a billion pieces... but it didn't. The lower jaw can be removed and everything. There is absolutely no traces of carving or really any marking at all on these things... it's amazing. The only thing that could cut through the crystal the Mitchell-Hedges skull was cut of is diamond... and the man-power it would take back then would add up to about three hundred year's worth of work. Also, the size and type of crystal wasn't available to that area... so maybe the crystal came from somewhere else or maybe some other civilization made the skull. Aztecs had an obsession with skulls. Who knows.

No one's got any idea where they came from. It's all guesswork. Most of them have been found in South America but there have been others. They've been juggled around and traded and sold and auctioned. Finding where they came from is almost impossible. Just like making those skulls were. They sent the Mitchell-Hedges skull to various crystal experts and crystal optical equipment manufacturers for examination. They said it was cut against the natural axis of the crystal, meaning that it SHOULD HAVE split. And yet it didn't... some sources I've looked at have said that it is impossible for us with even our lasers and technology to duplicate it.

No one's sure where the hell they came from. The Mayans thought they were from the Goddess of Death. But no one can be sure... there just isn't any trace or proof of them. They supposedly can induce dreams of the Mayan civilizations and rituals. In one case there was a skull that was on display in a museum. The workers demanded they cover it up at night because they said that it moved around on its own.

They're also not sure why they exist or how old they are. They have all these prisms and such inside that create different light patterns and optical illusions when subjected to light and color patterns. It's strange. Some people think that the skulls have something to do with the date of December 21, 2012 which is the end of the Mayan calender. But then again, not all the skulls are of Mayan origin though most of them suggest it. Who knows.

That's my bit. If you want to read the full thing here's the site.

http://www.mendhak.com/paranormal/mystery/show.php?id=25
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 12, 2005, 09:56:03 PM
They're not meant to be possible to make? supposedly cut against their axis so they should crack but don't?
http://www.mendhak.com/paranormal/mystery/show.php?id=25 (http://www.mendhak.com/paranormal/mystery/show.php?id=25)
Maybe they were made with PSI? makes just as much sense as any other explanation, seeing technology has no answers how.

Hmm, I want me the rose quartz one.
[quote author =Frozen]That's my bit. If you want to read the full thing here's the site.

http://www.mendhak.com/paranormal/mystery/show.php?id=25[/quote]

Hmm notice anything similar, in mine and frozens posts..... :biggrin: :elephant:
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Faijer on August 13, 2005, 12:45:37 PM
Wasn't this an episode of Stargate...
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Frozen on August 13, 2005, 06:48:36 PM
Haha, I didn't even notice. ^_^

Everyone always steals the first unfluffy google hit. Didn't you know that?
(Trying to dig up my National Geo mag about the Mayans maybe it has something in there...)
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 13, 2005, 11:25:20 PM
Wasn't this an episode of Stargate...
Stargate uses crystals alot, probably was on stargate.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Faijer on August 14, 2005, 04:48:39 AM
No, there was an episode that actually involved a crystal skull.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 14, 2005, 06:59:57 AM
What did I say?  :elephant:
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Juggalo on August 14, 2005, 03:46:13 PM
Interesting, thank you all for your comments.  A quick question just came in to mind, dose anyone know if any of the crystal skulls have come into contact with one another, or have all these people studying the skulls only looked at them one at a time?  Maybe we do not understand them only because we have not found them all and united them.  I have also heard that they are located all over the world, what if one civilization used the skull in it's posession to contact other civilizations with crystal skulls in their possesion across the world.  I don't know, just a thought.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Zake on August 14, 2005, 04:25:53 PM
There have been studies with multiple skulls; some people or groups of people even own two or three of them.  I don't think anyones ever gotten them all together just to see what happens, though.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Darkflame on August 14, 2005, 07:47:41 PM
There have been studies with multiple skulls; some people or groups of people even own two or three of them.  I don't think anyones ever gotten them all together just to see what happens, though.

You become all powerful like in the Phantom. >_>

It does look interesting, but the site is pretty much your regular conspiracy theorist limiting the conclusions to those that are sensational. Just like trying to interpret all of those prophecies as something, not finding the thing from the prophecy.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: dreamingcarnage on August 15, 2005, 12:44:21 AM
Isnt this exactly the Phantom except with a cryptic 13 rather then 4? was phantom before this started getting circulated around?
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Velocity on August 15, 2005, 02:39:31 AM
wow... Phantom... thats old. I use to worship that movie when I was younger.


Anyway, this is an intruiging topic. I've never heard of Crystal Skulls..

*googles it*
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 15, 2005, 08:00:19 PM
Ok I watched the SG-1 episode, they made a seemingly rose quartz skull act as a gateway to another plane where a giant being which would probably be an inorganic entity was visible to them in.
They were in the same place they were, but they were invisible and etheric to people on the normal plane.

Also in the episode they talk about the skull being used as a teleporting device to the other skull, as the skull on the distant planet was identical to one on earth in a mayan temple.
The discover was able to teleport with the skull while it was in the temple, but when there was and earthquake the temple was destroyed.
The same way the discoverer was transported could not be replicated so noone would believe his claims.

This is a fictional show based on egyptian and ancient cultures mind you.
But what really is fiction these days.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SKULLSfoundME on August 17, 2005, 11:51:30 AM
man i was introduced to teh skulls about a year ago and everything that i have questioned in lifehas basicly been answered   we donthave much time   all 13 are gonna be here @2012...      so we need to pass the knowledge about them as much as we can   even if they call you crazy and all that stuff just  make them aware  when the time comes.. they won't think you're crazy amymore
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Frozen on August 17, 2005, 03:06:42 PM

Okay then, you have fun with that.



Anyway... there are way more than thirteen crystal skulls. I think the thirteen simply represents the most notable and most finely made of them. One woman has over nine skulls I think... I can't recall the exact number. No one has ever had more than three or four of the skulls together at a time. The Mitchell-Hedges skull and two others were under study by the same company at one point but kept separated. But regardless, I find them very intriguing.
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Eagleon on August 17, 2005, 11:26:30 PM
Okay, time for a few Geologist's son style remarks on the mendhak.com article's facts. :D

First of all, the size of the crystal is not impossible in any way, and is most especially not contradictory to the 'laws of physics'. It's spectacular that a crystal of that clarity and size grew naturally (if it did), but not at all impossible. Here's a 25 lb one for proof. http://shop.store.yahoo.com/geodes/larquarcrys.html (http://shop.store.yahoo.com/geodes/larquarcrys.html) For those too lazy to convert, 5.13 kg is around 11 lbs.

Second, quartz is very tough; due to its crystal structure (which, by the way, is triclinic, meaning three axes and not one), hardness, fracturing habits, and indiscernible cleavage, to 'shatter' a quartz crystal of this size requires more force than a carver of this skill would ever use. If you hit a large quartz crystal with a hammer, it will most likely bounce with a small amount of damage to the crystal. Trust me, I've tried.

Third, you cannot date quartz, except in special cases, and this only when the location the specimen was found in is known. Quartz is silica (formula SiO2), carbon dating relies on exactly that - carbon. Unless they used some crazy convoluted logic or technique I'm unaware of, the date of its make is pure conjecture, relying entirely on the honesty of its owner. I can't think of anything they -could- use to prove that it wasn't from the locations where such a crystal might reasonably be found.

Finally, the idea that a diamond or diamond grit would shatter a quartz crystal of any size is laughable, a laser even more so. There are many modern techniques which could be used to reproduce this artifact. I don't know about in 1943, but just the fact that so many of the statements in here seem to be twisted or completely made up makes me question its authenticity.

I have found some sites which say that the surface -does- have marks, regular ones like that of a buffing wheel, but it's very frustrating sorting through the chaff to find the original source of this claim, and I can't even find them back again since I closed out the window which had it (Maybe someone can help out here?). Regardless, the wording is foggy. I can't explain the supposed optical effects of the piece, but I find it hard to take this seriously. :cow:
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 19, 2005, 10:07:48 AM
man i was introduced to teh skulls about a year ago and everything that i have questioned in lifehas basicly been answered   we donthave much time   all 13 are gonna be here @2012...      so we need to pass the knowledge about them as much as we can   even if they call you crazy and all that stuff just  make them aware  when the time comes.. they won't think you're crazy amymore
What?
You joking or what, anyone supposed to actually know what your infering?
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: beehe on August 20, 2005, 07:16:22 AM
I think hes referring to either the demon war, the rapture or the end of the Mayan calender Something along thous lines.

But my question would be why is everyone facinated about skulls made of crystals? Surly you have seen the world differently as others do. But what is it about human body parts that facinates us? That is my question...
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: Pepperluu on August 20, 2005, 02:44:56 PM

Finally, the idea that a diamond or diamond grit would shatter a quartz crystal of any size is laughable, a laser even more so. There are many modern techniques which could be used to reproduce this artifact. I don't know about in 1943, but just the fact that so many of the statements in here seem to be twisted or completely made up makes me question its authenticity.

I have found some sites which say that the surface -does- have marks, regular ones like that of a buffing wheel, but it's very frustrating sorting through the chaff to find the original source of this claim, and I can't even find them back again since I closed out the window which had it (Maybe someone can help out here?). Regardless, the wording is foggy. I can't explain the supposed optical effects of the piece, but I find it hard to take this seriously. :cow:

 
I may have found the site you are referring to: http://skepdic.com/crystalskull.html (http://skepdic.com/crystalskull.html)

But they are not talking about the Mitchell-Hedges skull when referring to the wheel marks. They are referring to other crystal skulls, obvious hoaxes/forgeries, that have been found more recently.

I think we have to take all of this stuff with a grain of salt. But I do find it intriguing that the Mitchell-Hedges skull seems to predate the technology it would take to make such a near perfect specimen. Do I know that the legends and myths surrounding the skulls are true? Of course not. Do I believe its possible? Of course I do! I'm still just naive enough to believe that almost anything is possible. Am I ready to form a religion around them? Get real!

Which brings me to SKULLSfoundME  ???:

I don't even know what to say, man.

*sighs and shakes her head*


Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on August 22, 2005, 11:04:27 AM
Apparently it's about the being said to be god returning in 2012,
I suppose that this creator being is coming back to see what his colony of "rainbow warriors" has gotten up to.
The religion fits in with bible tales, on the day which the creator rests I would guess the creator went to another galaxy.
Those aliens with the large heads that on occasion crash somewhere tie in with it too.
It's not terribly important, but it does seem to support the work of veritas society.
Don't go jumping to any conclusions about what I believe, unless you want to.
Actually go right ahead, it's thoroughly unimportant. :elephant: :wink:
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: sargon on August 29, 2005, 01:32:30 AM
Shhhhhhhhh  :p

>:D - demons from demon war
:teethy: - me
Title: Re: 13 Crystal Skulls
Post by: SleepWalker on September 02, 2005, 09:05:35 AM
well good I'll be right behind you then